(07-02-2011 01:57 )malicious fan Wrote: [ -> ]have we figured out yet if you finish 6th do you get into europe? any1 know the answer?
This is going to sound
really arrogant, although it's not meant to, but as a United fan I've never actually been affected by these qualification criterias for the Europa League/UEFA Cup as we've never finished low enough in the past 19 seasons so as to even think about it.
But thanks for informing us all the same Skateguy as it does affect everyone as there may well be teams with something to play for in the closing weeks of the season. And then there's the nonsense that is the fair play Europa League place; anyone remember just a couple or so years ago when Manchester City only had to avoid a couple of bookings in their final match at Middlesbrough in order to secure said place? They
succeeded by not putting in a single tackle and lost 8-1
ufea have the habit pissing about with how teams qualifer for the champions league and europa league.
Yeah yeah - whateverrrrr
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I was there that night behind the goal when Schmeichel scored to preserve our then-proud unbeaten home record in Europe. You are right, but then - technically - so am I as I was well aware come the back-end of the 1994/95 season that it'd either be Champions League or UEFA Cup if we finished second; thus there was no need to get out the maths books and work out the permutations and qualifying criterias like you scousers are presently doing
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Football used to be a simpler game back in the day
! Does anyone remember the stupidest system of all back at the start of the noughties when there used to be not one but TWO group stages in the Champions League?
! Utterly ridiculous!
Oh, and as if Rotor Volgograd wasn't bad enough, we also went out at the first stage of the League Cup that season, beaten 3-0 at home by York City in one of the most unlikely-ever-to-be-repeated results in history.
ooh be careful cos crawley town are coming up and you never know what team taggart will put out, and i remember exeter going to old trafford some years ago and getting a 0-0 draw in the fa cup, and i think they were non league at the time and burton got a 0-0 draw with man utd the season after, sorry lindor i will stop pickin on your team, lol.
(07-02-2011 02:06 )skateguy Wrote: [ -> ]Not automatically. The team in 6th place only gets a place in the Europa cup if the winners and runner up in the FA Cup, or the winner of the Carling Cup, have already qualified for European competition by finishing in 1st - 5th place in the premiership.
This means that the 7th placed premiership team can also qualify for Europe if the FA cup winner and runner up, and Carling Cup winner, have finished in the top five in the premiership.
It just goes to show that Skate's not just a computer geek.
He knows a bit about football as well.
with platini in charge of ufea the qualification to the champs league and europa league might involve the ridiculas like the finanical fair play thingy they are trying introduce.
there were a time when they had 3 euro comps, champions league (actually for champions), ufea cup for 2nd, 3rd and the fa cup winners and the cup winners cup for the league cup. there was nothing wrong with this the problem was the teams and uffea wanting more money and not wanting to teams like Rotor Volgograd.
You're right regards the way that UEFA have now re-structured the European club competitions in favour of the richest and most powerful clubs to the detriment of the continent's lesser lights. The whole seeding thing is put there in place so as to protect the biggest club ie the ones who bring in the biggest viewing figures, and to try to ensure that they are the clubs who play out the latter stages of the competitions.
Whilst I detest most of what Michel Platini stands for, I do agree with the financial fair play rules which UEFA will supposedly bring in as of next season (I say supposedly because I'll believe it when it happens and I'm not holding my breath on it doing so).
I don't drive a Ferrari because I cannot afford one, so why should clubs who are, in some cases, hundreds of millions of pounds in debt, be allowed to continue to spend like money's going out of fashion? So I say put the rules into being and make them concrete, and root out ANY team that fails to function within these rules; this would serve to root out the leeches such as the Glazers and formerly Hicks and Gillett at Anfield in no time as the Champions League is their financial lifeblood and a hugely-significant percentage of their budget.