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have we figured out yet if you finish 6th do you get into europe? any1 know the answer?

(07-02-2011 01:57 )malicious fan Wrote:  have we figured out yet if you finish 6th do you get into europe? any1 know the answer?

Not automatically. The team in 6th place only gets a place in the Europa cup if the winners and runner up in the FA Cup, or the winner of the Carling Cup, have already qualified for European competition by finishing in 1st - 5th place in the premiership.

This means that the 7th placed premiership team can also qualify for Europe if the FA cup winner and runner up, and Carling Cup winner, have finished in the top five in the premiership.

Oh fuck, looks like the Wolves will just miss out this season then..

trust skateguy to find out the answer lol. cheers skate.

I've copied and pasted the following mf.....seems you were on the ball in your thinking



Qualification for European competitions
As of the 2009–10 season qualification for the UEFA Champions League changes, the top four teams in the Premier League qualify for the UEFA Champions League, with the top three teams directly entering the group stage. Previously only the top two teams qualified automatically. The fourth-placed team enters the Champions League at the play-off round for non-champions and must win a two-legged knockout tie in order to enter the group stage.[23] The team placed fifth in the Premier League automatically qualifies for the UEFA Europa League, and the sixth and seventh-placed teams can also qualify, depending on the winners of the two domestic cup competitions. If one of the cup winners qualifies for Europe through their league position, the sixth-placed team in the Premier League will qualify for the Europa League. If both of the cup winners qualify for the Champions League through their league position, the sixth and seventh-placed teams in the Premier League will qualify for the Europa League. If either domestic cup competition is contested between teams outside the top four league positions, the winner will automatically qualify for the UEFA Europa League regardless of their final league position. A further place in the UEFA Europa League is also available via the Fair Play initiative. If the Premier League has one of the three highest Fair Play rankings in Europe, the highest ranked team in the Premier League Fair Play standings which has not already qualified for Europe will automatically qualify for the UEFA Europa League first qualifying round.

[24]
An exception to the usual European qualification system happened in 2005, after Liverpool won the Champions League the year before, but did not finish in a Champions League qualification place in the Premier League that season. UEFA gave special dispensation for Liverpool to enter the Champions League, giving England five qualifiers.[25] UEFA subsequently ruled that the defending champions qualify for the competition the following year regardless of their domestic league placing. However, for those leagues with four entrants in the Champions League, this means that if the Champions League winner falls outside of its domestic league's top four, it will qualify at the expense of the fourth-placed team in the league. No association can have more than four entrants in the Champions League.[26]

i think skate made it sound easier to understand lol. if arsenal win the carling cup and u finish 6th you will be in europe cos arsenal will finish in the top 4 u have to think. if birmingham win it then its different. but its all ifs and buts so lets just wait and see wot happens. anyway yoda thnx for trying to sort it out m8 the malicious 1 appreciates it!

all i know 5th automatic 6 and 7 dependant on cup winners, fair play league is a different keetle of fish

5th is a given for UEFA Cup. I wasn't sure about 6th and 7th getting into the UEFA cup either? But what about when Middlesborough got into the UEFA cup after winning the FA Cup i think?

this is from wiki:

Qualification for European competitions:
As of the 2009–10 season qualification for the UEFA Champions League changes, the top four teams in the Premier League qualify for the UEFA Champions League, with the top three teams directly entering the group stage. Previously only the top two teams qualified automatically. The fourth-placed team enters the Champions League at the play-off round for non-champions and must win a two-legged knockout tie in order to enter the group stage. The team placed fifth in the Premier League automatically qualifies for the UEFA Europa League, and the sixth and seventh-placed teams can also qualify, depending on the winners of the two domestic cup competitions. If one of the cup winners qualifies for Europe through their league position, the sixth-placed team in the Premier League will qualify for the Europa League. If both of the cup winners qualify for the Champions League through their league position, the sixth and seventh-placed teams in the Premier League will qualify for the Europa League. If either domestic cup competition is contested between teams outside the top four league positions, the winner will automatically qualify for the UEFA Europa League regardless of their final league position. A further place in the UEFA Europa League is also available via the Fair Play initiative. If the Premier League has one of the three highest Fair Play rankings in Europe, the highest ranked team in the Premier League Fair Play standings which has not already qualified for Europe will automatically qualify for the UEFA Europa League first qualifying round.

(07-02-2011 08:06 )ares127901 Wrote:  5th is a given for UEFA Cup. I wasn't sure about 6th and 7th getting into the UEFA cup either? But what about when Middlesborough got into the UEFA cup after winning the FA Cup i think?

middlesborough finished 7th in the league the season before but arsenal won the fa cup and chelsea won the carling cup, but they qualified for the champions league, so bolton who finished 6th and middlesborough who finished 7th both got a place in the uefa cup along with liverpool automatically for finishing 5th. middlesborough got to the final of the uefa cup but lost to i think it was sevilla but cant be to sure without lookin it up. i think middlesborough won the carling cup the season before so they also got in that the uefa cup as well for that season.