(20-10-2020 07:25 )lovebabes56 Wrote: [ -> ]So any trade deal Trump cares to put on the table, that involves the NHS, he can shove any deal up that fat ass of his.
No 10 have given up on Trump.
They're already talking to Biden.
(20-10-2020 07:05 )Goodfella3041 Wrote: [ -> ]Net approval rating (Approve-Disapprove) for incumbent president 2 weeks before election:
+30.4% Richard Nixon (won)
+26.3% Bill Clinton (won)
+19.3% Ronald Reagan (won)
+ 2.3% Gerald Ford (lost)
+ 1.8% Barak Obama (won)
+ 0.3% George W Bush (won)
-11.3% Donald Trump
-16.9% Jimmy Carter (lost)
-22.9% George HW Bush (lost)
I can only assume Nixon's was so high considering as I think it was a landslide victory when he won and got hit by Watergate and nice to see Ronald Reagan score so highly but had expected a few more points though but still that shows how widely regarded & respected he was as President.
Just a few more points for Trump to lose te fall below GW Bush and I reckon the debate this week probably might decide his fate and final rating.
(20-10-2020 07:44 )The Silent Majority Wrote: [ -> ] (20-10-2020 07:25 )lovebabes56 Wrote: [ -> ]So any trade deal Trump cares to put on the table, that involves the NHS, he can shove any deal up that fat ass of his.
No 10 have given up on Trump.
They're already talking to Biden.
Which means they should not go thru with the internal markets bill because if it endangers the GFA then no way will be a trade deal
Boris has backed himself into a corner.
He's going to have to go into bullshitting overdrive when Biden wins.
(20-10-2020 01:28 )Slabhead Wrote: [ -> ] (19-10-2020 05:37 )HannahsPet Wrote: [ -> ]It wasnt a peace deal it was a normalisation of Relations
it was more to do with the threat from iran and those jets than wanting to I bet for a fact they had to get permission from the Saudi's to do it
No, it was a peace deal. The Arab nations in all but name have been at war with Israel by economically shunning them.
And if they went to war with Israel on a military front they know they'll end up fighting the US as well. I reckon if anything Trump brokered a fuck all deal that just made that powder keg region a whole lot more unstable and probably blew any real reasonable chance of a true peace deal made by Blair out of the water
(20-10-2020 07:47 )HannahsPet Wrote: [ -> ] (20-10-2020 07:44 )The Silent Majority Wrote: [ -> ]No 10 have given up on Trump.
They're already talking to Biden.
Which means they should not go thru with the internal markets bill because if it endangers the GFA then no way will be a trade deal
If Johnson had any sense in the fucking first place he shouldn't have created that bill
if he knew the consequences of it for trade deals. what's the betting odds on both Johnson and Trump being out of office in the next six months?
(20-10-2020 07:45 )lovebabes56 Wrote: [ -> ]I can only assume Nixon's was so high considering as I think it was a landslide victory when he won and got hit by Watergate and nice to see Ronald Reagan score so highly but had expected a few more points though but still that shows how widely regarded & respected he was as President.
Just a few more points for Trump to lose te fall below GW Bush and I reckon the debate this week probably might decide his fate and final rating.
Correct on Nixon.
The Watergate burglary happened in 1972, but it took over a year for all the dirty laundry to be exposed, so it didn't really affect the election. That also explains the odd Gerald Ford outcome. Ford was not a disliked President, with numbers that probably should have seen him re-elected. But he was still weighed down by association to Nixon whose net approval was as low as -36% when he resigned.
In 1984, Reagan was on the rise from a low point of -20%. That was around 1982, when the pain of 'reaganomics' was very raw. By the time he was up for re-election, with his "morning in America" campaign, the economy was turning in his favour. He'd reach a high of +44% before the Iran-Contra affair would knock him back to about 3%.
I don't think Trump will lose or gain much at all in the next two weeks. A key feature of this presidency has been the extraordinary consistency of the approval ratings. He has oscillated in a narrow band between -10% and -15% since his inauguration. Almost nothing can budge it.
Take something like impeachment. He didn't drop much when he was impeached; he didn't gain much when he was acquitted. On Russia, he barely moved through the height of the hysteria; he didn't climb after his 'exoneration'. He was on a downward trajectory during the shutdown, but he reverted to the mean as soon as it ended. And throughout Covid, he has never really enjoyed a "rally around the flag" effect -- like GW Bush experienced after 9/11 -- and he didn't get a sympathy boost when he contracted it. But his numbers also don't reflect a widespread perception of mishandling the crisis.
I think it's partly a reflection of his base. The identity-politics MAGA crowd will back him no matter what. Then there's the Republican faithful who would support a roller-skating monkey if it got them tax cuts, judges and a better stock portfolio. So there is a hardcore base that is immune to any news -- good or bad. Because the economy was strong, the approval rating has a high floor.
(And at the risk of getting my butt hurt again, I'll just repeat that Trump only managed a strong and growing economy that he inherited from Obama, who rescued a wounded economy that he inherited from Bush).
(20-10-2020 07:11 )The Silent Majority Wrote: [ -> ]If you take your head out of Trumps arse you might see what was really going on in the world.
Sorry, I don't live in a bubble like you...
Well, the way you talk & post seems to suggest you would have done a far worse job than Trump is doing....
31m mail votes have been posted
So for the next debate between Trump and Biden they are going to switch the microphones off to stop the annoying interuptions.
Or they could just have used orange masking tape