He's now sucking up to the religious mob, and you can bet your arse it isn't the love thy neighbour lot, but the westboro types that they're courting, ffs.
Church and state need to be separate, there is no place for religion in government, it causes all kinds of problems
America will be getting taught creationism at this rate, with dinosaurs being a conspiracy and evolution being fake news. Cunts.
(02-02-2017 12:28 )skully Wrote: [ -> ]{snip}
Can you assure me that not a single civilian and civilian child was ever killed by US action under Obama or Bush?
Whether the rights and wrongs, the death of this child is being used as anti trump propaganda, which is appalling.
I didn't imply that, so don't edit my post if/when you quote it to try and make a point at the expense of mine, not cool.
'' Obama made informed decisions which in some cases ended badly''
(02-02-2017 18:29 )skully Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't imply that, so don't edit my post if/when you quote it to try and make a point at the expense of mine, not cool.
'' Obama made informed decisions which in some cases ended badly''
Firstly I didn't edit your post, I removed the bulk to save space, which I often do.
I asked a simple question you, sort off, answered.
People have indeed died at the hands of ALL American presidents terms in office, all of them as a direct result of the wests action in the middle east which should never have happen in the first place.
To try and say a death is worse because this president did this action, but unfortunate event when another does this action is plain wrong, especially when it's for propaganda purposes.
It's like saying Trump killed some one by drink driving, but Obama only drove with out due care and attention.
Neither deaths should be defended or one made worse that another, unless it's murder.
Changing some of the words is editing, which you did, but I don't see the point of us having a relatively pointless disagreement about it.
That is true, I can't imagine any president walking away completely clean.
I do agree with that point too, using death as propaganda is wrong, the point that I was making was that it may not have gone the way it did if they had waited for more information, they went about it all wrong. They are rushing things to show they are keeping promises, but they shouldn't, these kinds of operations take time, it was tragic all round.
Unfortunately the media can be their own worst enemies in situations like this. Each have their own agenda, they should report facts.
(02-02-2017 20:03 )wackawoo Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2017 18:29 )skully Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't imply that, so don't edit my post if/when you quote it to try and make a point at the expense of mine, not cool.
'' Obama made informed decisions which in some cases ended badly''
Firstly I didn't edit your post, I removed the bulk to save space, which I often do.
I asked a simple question you, sort off, answered.
People have indeed died at the hands of ALL American presidents terms in office, all of them as a direct result of the wests action in the middle east which should never have happen in the first place.
To try and say a death is worse because this president did this action, but unfortunate event when another does this action is plain wrong, especially when it's for propaganda purposes.
It's like saying Trump killed some one by drink driving, but Obama only drove with out due care and attention.
Neither deaths should be defended or one made worse that another, unless it's murder.
your really gonna argue with skully? it's ok arguing with with me but he's literally the best person on here. your veiled right wing bullshit is plain to see for everyone.
just be up front with your views, people will respect you more for it.
(02-02-2017 17:51 )wackawoo Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2017 12:28 )skully Wrote: [ -> ]{snip}
Can you assure me that not a single civilian and civilian child was ever killed by US action under Obama or Bush?
Whether the rights and wrongs, the death of this child is being used as anti trump propaganda, which is appalling.
Anti Trump propaganda? He has been telling lies since he decided to run for president and is now telling the media to stay quiet. They changed the rules so they don't an agreement to approve the people they want to appoint and use gut instinct instead of intelligence detail before launching a stroke no one is a bigger threat to democracy than him and your a little put out that someone doesn't like him?
I suspect his mate Bannon's view on the collateral damage (reports vary on how many civilians were killed) is along the lines of - what's the problem they're only Muslims
(02-02-2017 22:03 )SecretAgent Wrote: [ -> ]I suspect his mate Bannon's view on the collateral damage (reports vary on how many civilians were killed) is along the lines of - what's the problem they're only Muslims
To be followed up with a Kellyann Conway alternative facts press release
(02-02-2017 20:17 )skully Wrote: [ -> ]Changing some of the words is editing, which you did, but I don't see the point of us having a relatively pointless disagreement about it.
I didn't change anybodys words. I do not have were with all to edit anybodies post. Nor did I mis quote it. I asked a question to clarify a particular point, I assume everybody will have read your post and read your point.
Be that has it may, in future, I'll do your snip system.
As for the rest of your post, I agree. it's using a death for propaganda purposes that I have a problem with.