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(28-01-2017 11:59 )babelover48 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with john McCain's assessment of Putin but at the same time I do think it is in the wider world's best interests that the USA & Russia should be having dialogue to ease world tensions at best

I wouldn't disagree with that but, the question is, can we trust Trump not to sell the West down the river in the process.

The jury's still well and truly out on that one.
i agree. better relations is a good thing but do you really want to trust trump with that?
The KGB/FSB officer believed to have helped compile the 'golden showers' dossier has been found dead, and a number of people involved in cyber operations for the russian security services (and rumoured to be involved in the hacking of the US parties during the election campaign) have been arrested.

Looks like Putin is covering his tracks and clearing up loose threads. Can't help feeling that in any closer relations between US and Russia, Putin will very much have the upper hand, and that is downright scary.
Press conference went well.
It looks like the Trump decree on visa controls is going to hurt a lot more people than he thinks
(28-01-2017 17:52 )babelover48 Wrote: [ -> ]It looks like the Trump decree on visa controls is going to hurt a lot more people than he thinks

I doubt it.

The bit about him thinking, I mean Wink
probably his syrup is doing the thinking for him!! Tongue
Christ this ban is a lot harder than i thought it was

Basically anyone born in the countrys that are banned but are passport holders of anyother country are banned as well

So Sir Mo Farrah is banned from his portland oregon training base

and Luol Dueng from the LA Lakers would be banned from going back into the country. So if the LA Lakers play in toronto he couldnt leave the country to play because he wouldnt be allowed back in

theres even a tory MP of Iraqi descent would be banned because he was born in Iraq
It goes further than we previously thought I reckon
I wonder how many musicians would be banned from entering/re - entering when they go overseas on tour
(28-01-2017 23:38 )HannahsPet Wrote: [ -> ]Christ this ban is a lot harder than i thought it was

Basically anyone born in the countrys that are banned but are passport holders of anyother country are banned as well

So Sir Mo Farrah is banned from his portland oregon training base

and Luol Dueng from the LA Lakers would be banned from going back into the country. So if the LA Lakers play in toronto he couldnt leave the country to play because he wouldnt be allowed back in

theres even a tory MP of Iraqi descent would be banned because he was born in Iraq
I wonder if Sir Mo would have to have a US passport to get back in
But the way he's implemented this shows it might be a good thing in one sense but I think it creates a million other problems another way and would not be surprised if he is inundated with lawsuits very soon
that may force him to scrap it simply because it would also mean families are going to be split up and innocent people will be refused entry when they have nothing to do with terrorism
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