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(10-01-2021 22:00 )southsidestu Wrote: [ -> ]This will probably surprise many people on here but I largely agree with everything Rake said. Identity politics is a divisive issue & I think it creates an us versus them narrative. White privilege is absolutely a thing, by just about every measurable statistic you are better off being white than most other races, that hasn't happened because white people are superior. Even if you are low income there are still advantages, prisons are occupied disproportionately by low income individuals & still have disproportionate black numbers. Never the less I think white privilege & identity is bad politics, as our leaders should seek to unify.

Barack Obama knew this, there was obviously a lot of talk about him possibly being the first black President of the United States but that never came from him or his campaign. He was always about everyone in the country, out of many we rise as one, no red states no blue states only United States & Yes We Can. And it was a mistake Clinton made, her campaign focused too much on her being the first woman President, the slogan I'm with her kind of made it seem that it wasn't about the American people. That coupled with the fact that she was First Lady & everyone thought that she was going to be President then, a Senator and Secretary of State gave off this air that being President was her divine right. Still a billion times better than Trump.

Going back, though you are still better off being white than black, as Rake said there are many white Brits that are not feeling the benefits of living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world. This is true of the US as well where the life expectancy of white Americans is dropping because of factors like the opioid epidemic & the rise in suicides. The class system is still a massive factor in our society, whilst I think it is right that we have pivoted towards talking more about race, gender, sexual orientation etc in doing so we have pivoted away from class which is wrong because it affects all of these identities. Not only is it the case that your are more likely to find yourself in a position of power & influence if you are white & privately educated/went to Oxbridge but for the disproportionately fewer woman & BAME etc who do make it into these positions they also are more likely to be privately educated or go to Oxbridge

A movement that seeks to combine & advance the issues of race, gender, LGBT+ etc with class in the name of solidarity i think would be a truly progressive movement

(10-01-2021 23:45 )Rake Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you Snookered, very kind.

(10-01-2021 23:45 )Rake Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you Snookered, very kind.

Fantastic speech by Arnie, and don't forget he is a Republican. From the old-school, decent Republicans' tradition.