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(10-02-2021 00:04 )ryuken Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine if Harrods & Selfridges told every babe that they couldn't window shop.

And they can't ask the staff a reasonable question about the products that are available for sale.

And the staff said that they have to check your bank balance first, just to make sure that they can pay for it, before they answer or they'll be banned LOL.

Big Grin Big Laugh Big Grin
Hello I've just read ryuken thread about how much money would a babe channel girl earn from her content being behind a paywall there's only a few girls that could answer that and one of them is Lola knight. As everything she does isn't free unless she does a normal on screen show on TV she doesn't even like people doing caps while she on Freeview either.Since s66 have brought in some new rules like you need credits on a account to watch backstage home cam shows. Have u seen the dip in customers tipping buzzing hitting tip goal of late. I think this is down to customers now thinking twice in the quick tip or buzz because if u haven't got enough credits in Ur account I'm not sure if that person can still watch or speak in chatbox. Which brings me onto free streaming sites in where u can visit and watch all channels incling backstage and home cam shows. In where u can tip as little as 10 credits which is £1. But the likes of Rampant tv also take there cut from that tip to other babe channels girls so the girls might only get 75-80 pence from that tip. Got this feeling that more girls might hide behind the paywall more in coming months. Yes it's it's there livelyhood and without the help really of the studio's that go 50/50 with a babe on her show and I'm not sure about this but I did have a babe who has left the industry that each home cam girl has to pay to also use the studio platform as well not sure if this has changed but it was one of the reason's she left it. I'm also seeing a few fans of curtain girls not being around much since the new year weather it's to do with work or low on funds but I was in a babe room the other day there was 4 of us in there in the end the babe went behind the paywall. There is a old saying that if Ur in a shop and there no price tags on anything and u ask in how much this item is u couldn't afford it in the first place. As for asking babe in how much it is for something they are happily to answer a customer question but remember they already know what that person has for credit so they will Mike it alittle to get as much money as they can from Dazzler
Here's something I've thought about which sorts of makes me smile in years to come in our generation will we be living in a care home with our one room watching and calling babe shows in between the care assistant bringing us our food or medications because let's face it babe girls love to chat and we won't be doing much it will feel like lockdown and talking to the care assistant not about the war but of the great lockdown and making up our own stories about in how we all got through it and what we got up to from Dazzler
^ What a fabulous notion Big Grin.
An even grumpier, even more cynical and profoundly scenile snooks still sneakily trying to get babes naked on the phone in his old age while the care assistant isn't looking Tonguelaugh.
Randy old snooks, old habits dying hard Wink.
Hiya as of late s66 has tried to combat the freeloading and abused in the girls chatboxes. but it's gone wrong for them they not told the girls in what's happening but if anyone has been watching would see that calls tips and buzzes have decreased loads. it's because the free streaming sites u can now only watch u can't use the chat box or tip from these sites to s66 but the girls are now all worried because customers need certain amount of credits in there account or they watch or log into there account. I'm not sure about this but I think the people in the chatrooms are the ones that can phone in or use cam or tip and buzz. I'm hearing that there could be new meeting about what they have done and where to go from here. But there was a few babes that wanted tougher actions last year that now have realised that it might have bigger problems in there pay due to the few people that are around now. From Dazzler
It's good to see that S66 have realised how important freeloading is, and how little money they would make if they put all their content behind a paywall.

I'd love to see the same happen on BS, just so they'd wake up to the fact how much they've taken us as punters for granted.
(19-02-2021 03:29 )Dazzler Wrote: [ -> ]Hiya as of late s66 has tried to combat the freeloading and abused in the girls chatboxes. but it's gone wrong for them they not told the girls in what's happening but if anyone has been watching would see that calls tips and buzzes have decreased loads. it's because the free streaming sites u can now only watch u can't use the chat box or tip from these sites to s66 but the girls are now all worried because customers need certain amount of credits in there account or they watch or log into there account. I'm not sure about this but I think the people in the chatrooms are the ones that can phone in or use cam or tip and buzz. I'm hearing that there could be new meeting about what they have done and where to go from here. But there was a few babes that wanted tougher actions last year that now have realised that it might have bigger problems in there pay due to the few people that are around now. From Dazzler

They really are idiots running 66 everyone here said that's exactly what would happen yet they didn't see it coming, why would people pay to use the 66 site where there are lots of other sites that have deals with 66 to show there content for free,
It also shows how little many of the girls know about there fan base, the whole concept of the babeshows is free to air to let people see who is on and what they are doing and then bring them in and start making money off them, by 66s site becoming basically PPV it's stopped that happening and the fans have left,
I had this discussion with a couple of 66 girls last year on twitter and tried to explain this but they didn't get it at all they hated that people could see them for free and thought everyone should be paying I told them it wouldn't work,
(19-02-2021 12:32 )winsaw Wrote: [ -> ]They really are idiots running 66 everyone here said that's exactly what would happen yet they didn't see it coming, why would people pay to use the 66 site where there are lots of other sites that have deals with 66 to show there content for free,
It also shows how little many of the girls know about there fan base, the whole concept of the babeshows is free to air to let people see who is on and what they are doing and then bring them in and start making money off them, by 66s site becoming basically PPV it's stopped that happening and the fans have left,
I had this discussion with a couple of 66 girls last year on twitter and tried to explain this but they didn't get it at all they hated that people could see them for free and thought everyone should be paying I told them it wouldn't work,

Your right @winsaw you don't go anywhere else and buy something without seeing it first.

I think the seeing them for free thing is soooo valid, its starting to become an issue on BS as well with the you don't tip me I'll just lay here and ask for tips and do no interaction situation.

A lot are forgetting its entertainment and if your doing nothing how's that entertaining. If your quiet interact with your fans, tease them a bit maybe with what they could have and I bet the tips roll in. There are a few who do but they're becoming less and less common.
^ This is what happens when a sense of entitlement overcomes rationality and pragmatism. Also too many babes of today appear to have little or no sense of the shows' own history - why and how things were successful in the past.

Then too, as winsaw says, they don't think like their own payers. They fail to consider enough what guys value about the overall experience of being a fan and how that plays into their spending. Most babes seem to think we pay on the basis of only our momentary interactions with them. This is not how it works for most punters. To keep turning over the green, we have to feel good about being around the shows and their output at a minimum; respected, understood and appreciated at best.

Paying punters "freeload" as a means towards the purchase. They also place a value on the material they see and hear whilst doing so that is incorporated into their judgement on their purchases' value for money. It is all part of the service, all part of what is consumed.

Too many insiders seem to not give enough credence to these things. The attitude is that they can keep taking and taking from these areas to give more time/focus to the individual moments of purchase. To make those moments more exclusive and less prone to be freeloaded on. But this is to neglect the nuances of the average punter's overall experiences as outlined above. And his desire to feel happy about hanging around the channels in order to do his spending.

It's why blur, curtains, body cropping and the increased use of privates while on shift are all so easily overdone. They're messing with both the means to establish a judgement over the purchase and the likelihood of guys feeling positive about their experience after the spend. I'm sure it's great that the babe can make her one guy happy in her private but how many potential guys have drifted away while looking at the blank screen she left behind? How many are disillusioned by the suspicion she desires only to give proper satisfaction in the one-on-one scenario? How much of what made the shows successful in the first place is weakened by not having a vibe of hungry hordes of "freeloaders" around a babe or a channel? The crowd, fans, positive word of mouth, are an integral part of any performer's successes. That can include some that have never paid for the performer's work, it often includes some that haven't paid on that particular occasion.

To what actual benefit is it to drive freeloaders from the streams? A quieter life..?! Be careful what you wish for I say to that! With any service to the public, you mess with the numbers you invite to see your wares at your peril. In this case, for a number of VERY valid reasons.
I've heard that they are having a meeting over everything that's happen since the new rules have been put into place. The thing is I'm being told that there's less users now but more customers. It doesn't look right when first read but because people now can't do anything except watch from free streaming sites are people now making up accounts to get more from s66.the girls are the ones that are losing out and they have now seen for themselves without customers being able to come in for a while then go it's gonna be really hard.s66 has gone to far the other direction in trying to stop curtain things.a girl only needs a glitch in the system and without her knowing it she can lose hours of money in not getting calls tips pervcam buzzes.as winsaw has said about using other free streaming sites I'm not sure in this but I think u can only watch home cam shows or backstage but it will stop playing after a while so that person will have to keep clicking on the screen to carry on watching that feed. this is what I've been told watching s66 through anyother free streaming site will be like watching a film and won't be able to interact with that presenter on screen.ive not watched babestation since new year as I'm still awaiting for email explaining why two on screen tip goals were never done. From Dazzler
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