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(12-07-2014 21:29 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2014 21:06 )Regenerated Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2014 21:03 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote: [ -> ]Before the tournament started we were clear favourites...

and that was not a pen, wasn't in the box, he wouldn't have done it otherwise..

Fernandez - Brazilian football needs to change. Until you accept that change it will never get better. You need to show a lot more humility - it's hardly the perfect time for you to be boasting is it? Never mind what was said and done before the tournament started. It's what happens in it that counts.

Learn from the mistakes and move on.

No offence but I doubt you know very little about actual Brazilian football, this here in the world cup is not Brazilian football, this is just a manager who has picked a team of names with no plan...

If you watch the Brasilierao league the football is nothing like this, there are players there that you would not have heard of before who should have been in this squad.

Our players moving to Europe is not helping, it is making them lazy and they are not performing to the standard they can, many of them when they get a move to europe think "i've made it" and they are secure, but in Brasil they are playing for their lives so to speak and to care for their families so they play with more hart and give it all..

Brazilian football does not need to change the manager does...

So Brazilian football has been fine in 2010 and 2006 then? Wrong manager then as well? There is something wrong in Brazilian football if they keep employing the wrong manager at the very least. Who should have been chosen ahead of David Luiz? Because he's been awful. Too simplistic to blame the manager. Yes, he takes blame but so do the players. I know nothing about the Brazilian domestic league but I feel that if there were that many players playing in the domestic Brazilian league then the top European teams - especially the Spanish, Russian and Portuguese teams - would have scouted and signed them. As for picking a team of "names", Diego, Lucas Moura, Ronaldinho, Pato, Robinho, Kaka...That would be picking "names" surely? Brazilian football has no divine right to win. Accept it. You've not been good enough this tournament or any WC tournament since 2002.

(12-07-2014 21:23 )Joey 27 Wrote: [ -> ]i can't understand why holland celebrated when they scored

You must be of very low intelligence then.

(12-07-2014 21:36 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote: [ -> ]Joey When we were winning I thought we could go all the way and didn't know that our players would give up so easily...

I did say when the squad was announced that I was shocked at some of the players chosen..

I said we should have taken players like Dede, Jean, Pato, Damiao...

and Regenerated what part of what I just said to you is so hard to understand? Do you wan't me to cry or something? I just said we need to change our manager and pick more players from home who are hungry...

understand now?

I've said what needs to be said. You need to understand, not me.

(12-07-2014 21:42 )cosmonaut Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2014 21:23 )Joey 27 Wrote: [ -> ]i can't understand why holland celebrated when they scored

You must be of very low intelligence then.

so are you saying england should have celebrated if they scored and were 2-0 up against costa rica?

(12-07-2014 21:46 )Joey 27 Wrote: [ -> ]so are you saying england should have celebrated if they scored and were 2-0 up against costa rica?

Obviously they should and they would have done.

Ask yourself this - why does any team celebrate the goals they score in third place play off matches?

(12-07-2014 21:43 )Regenerated Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2014 21:36 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote: [ -> ]Joey When we were winning I thought we could go all the way and didn't know that our players would give up so easily...

I did say when the squad was announced that I was shocked at some of the players chosen..

I said we should have taken players like Dede, Jean, Pato, Damiao...

and Regenerated what part of what I just said to you is so hard to understand? Do you wan't me to cry or something? I just said we need to change our manager and pick more players from home who are hungry...

understand now?

I've said what needs to be said. You need to understand, not me.

Whatever dude, I did grow up in Brasil and have watched Barzilian football all my life, I don't need somebody on a babes forum to tell me the problems, any Brazilian can see them, I don't need your help

Come back and tell me the problems with Brazilian football when you have won 4 more world cups

what!!! why should england have celebrated if they scored against costa rica? at the end of the day they are out just like holland are

Not really saying much given England's record in World Cup compared with Brazil's

(11-07-2014 20:46 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote: [ -> ]

I agree with Joey, England shouldn't have Celebrated if they Scored against Costa Rica, Hodgeson should have issused an apology before the game and walked away after it, the players should have just picked the ball up and give it to Costa Rica to try and score as many as possible for the fans, not Celebrate failing..

I expect Brasil to do the same tonight... and for Scolari to walk away afterwards, this 3rd 4th place playoff is a pointless game and should not even be played.