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Oh yes, I forgot that bit-and the way it absorbed energy(like the monster is brought to life via the lightning)

Remember the scene in Daleks in Manhattan when David' Tennant's Doctor climbed to the top of the Empire State Building to interfere with the lightning strike which if my memory serves me correctly, that would have brought the Dalek hybrids to life? In that sense, that scene itself could have been seen as a Frankenstein type moment, so it has been used before.

I do hope for the next series that they stop ramming down messages that serve agendas outside the Whoinverse down our throats week in, week out and get scripts written that can hark back to the classic era type who shows and leave us wanting to watch the next episode. I think at times wouldn't it be great if they took it all the way back to classic era and did stories say two three episodes long, I miss that sort of thing with Doctor Who. One episode I would love to see is the Doctor landing back on Spiridon to interfere with the Daleks' attempts to free that 10,000 strong army!!

Ep 10 “The Timeless Children” Season 12 Trailer

https://youtu.be/mi2DfGHyPLA

Episode 9: Another confusing opening but soon it began to dawn on me who the kid was going to turn out to be. A good 2pt finale with the first one yesterday building up to the end next week and The Master returning was a good twist along with the home planet of Galifrey. Looking forward to Sunday already. I wonder if this year we will get a Christmas special?

I enjoyed tonight's episode and I don't think the reveal ruined it, but I do feel it was a bit rushed.
Also, I wasn't sold on the new Master at first, but he stole the show somewhat in this episode.

Does the reveal actually change anything though, because I don't think it does.

Thought the same Skully, didn't really change much in the end. Even the Doctor's shock at her sudden identity crisis was dispelled by her past self as not really mattering at the end of the day. I just didn't see what shocked the Master so much to do what he did in the first place.

The criticism about Doctor Who now being retconned doesn't hold up either. Pre Hartnell regenerations were effectively already made canon, by accident or not, in 'The Brain Of Morbius'. Chibnall just swept it back from under the carpet. And Andrew Cartmel always wanted more mystery to the Doctor's origin during his 7th incarnation with his 'more than just a Time Lord' theme.

But I rather enjoyed it, I already liked the more old school Cybermen design but the Cyber Time Lords were bit hammy but still very neat Wink

It was an alright finale on the whole but a few things niggled with me.

I don't really care about the fuss about retconning a pre-Hartnell past.
Robert Holmes did similar things about changing image of The Time Lords but to a lesser extent.
And I guess it can always be written off as The Master just making it all or some of it up if future production teams really want to ?
I'm not sure many will forgive Chibnall giving the original inhabitants of Gallifrey such a silly name though ?
And were the "Ireland" references some sly nod back to Classic Series jokes about characters in UNIT / some of the Earth-bound stories thinking the Doctor's references to "Gallifrey" were to somewhere in Ireland ?

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(01-03-2020 21:55 )skully Wrote: [ -> ]Does the reveal actually change anything though, because I don't think it does.

I'd agree, it just bumped the promise of a big reveal of origin into another unknown.

I'm just grateful a couple of my worst fears about the final two episodes weren't realised, that either:

-The Doctor/Time Lords were going to turn out to be descended from the Tim-Shaw-Tooth-Face bloke.
(But I suppose there's still time for that twist in the next season).

and/or

-The Tim-Shaw-Tooth-Face bloke had destroyed Gallifrey.

Am I right in thinking that the Cult of Skaro no longer exists?

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