13-11-2014, 02:54
I will respond to this post properly since you mention me.
OK, the doctor not ALWAYS being the center of the attention or always saving the day. Other than Listen he mostly did, he may not have been on camera all the time, as in flat line, but he was indirectly or directly responsible for the conclusion.
Deep breath - he 'killed half face.
Into the Dalek - he fixed the broken dalek and directed Clara.
Robot of Sherwood - he did the mirror thing, gold and the golden arrow thing.
Listen - Clara based (the monster was in the doctors mind, a very neat and clever twist)
The Caretaker - it was his gadgetry that enabled the blitzer to be defeated.
Kill the Moon - He knew the outcome, this was the test for Clara.
Mummy on the Orient Express - Found the right thing to say to mummy soldier.
Flatline - Banishing the other dimension things after being let out of the box by Clara.
In the Forest of the Night - Worked out that the threes were not a threat, similar to kill the moon.
Dark Water/Death in Heaven - oddly the least of the doctors in put but still had to give the bracelet to Danny to do the job.
So, as said, the doctor was heavily involved in ALL the out comes. What I think you seem to have a problem with is the help from the companions etc and it this REALLY a fault with doctor who or you not liking what doctor who should be? that is, you need to adapt.
Actually, they are not critics, critics are people whose actual job it is to OBJECTIVELY appraise a program, they will be people who have probably studied the areas they critique. Lay people, and on here is a very good example, are generally far more SUBJECTIVE and probably know a lot less about the processes of script writing and tv making than most critics.
The number of respondents there are less than 350, how many millions watched it? The respondents are already set a bias with the nature of the article, it is asking what do you think the problem with this series doctor who was; it is loaded for a negative response and it would be expected that the respondents would be negative about it by and large.
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Depends if they all jump all over posts that disagree with them.
(12-11-2014 19:46 )Regenerated Wrote: [ -> ]If you think back across the majority of the series, I actually think that the number of times the Doctor has actually saved the day and by this I mean conclusively saved it, not talking about half baked conclusions where either Clara has taken over, some random twist of fate has intervened to make the decision for him, or a pitiful enemy has had a change of heart, turned soft and sacrificed themselves to save it, can be counted on one hand. The only time I truly felt the Doctor grew some balls and defeated the enemy was in Flatline.
OK, the doctor not ALWAYS being the center of the attention or always saving the day. Other than Listen he mostly did, he may not have been on camera all the time, as in flat line, but he was indirectly or directly responsible for the conclusion.
Deep breath - he 'killed half face.
Into the Dalek - he fixed the broken dalek and directed Clara.
Robot of Sherwood - he did the mirror thing, gold and the golden arrow thing.
Listen - Clara based (the monster was in the doctors mind, a very neat and clever twist)
The Caretaker - it was his gadgetry that enabled the blitzer to be defeated.
Kill the Moon - He knew the outcome, this was the test for Clara.
Mummy on the Orient Express - Found the right thing to say to mummy soldier.
Flatline - Banishing the other dimension things after being let out of the box by Clara.
In the Forest of the Night - Worked out that the threes were not a threat, similar to kill the moon.
Dark Water/Death in Heaven - oddly the least of the doctors in put but still had to give the bracelet to Danny to do the job.
So, as said, the doctor was heavily involved in ALL the out comes. What I think you seem to have a problem with is the help from the companions etc and it this REALLY a fault with doctor who or you not liking what doctor who should be? that is, you need to adapt.
Quote:I've seen plenty of comments from non - professional critics (being a critic doesn't mean you have to be a professional one lazydayz, fans are themselves critics and their opinions still count as much as some prat writing for the Telegraph)
Actually, they are not critics, critics are people whose actual job it is to OBJECTIVELY appraise a program, they will be people who have probably studied the areas they critique. Lay people, and on here is a very good example, are generally far more SUBJECTIVE and probably know a lot less about the processes of script writing and tv making than most critics.
Quote:expressing how disappointed they were with the writing (something else we've frequently stated in here) so it's not just people on this forum disappointed with it.I never once said this was the last bastion of negativity towards doctor who, I did in fact state else where the MAJORITY tend to be fine with it, here it is reversed.
Quote:Take a look at some of these comments on http://www.tv.com. It has divided opinions there's no question of that, and although there are some that like some aspects of it, there's also a strong sense of frustration and disappointment that it could have been more, and I don't get the feeling that it was overwhelmingly 'exceptional'. If it was exceptional I'm sure at least a few of us would have shared your views in here.
http://www.tv.com/shows/doctor-who-2005/...470299550/
The number of respondents there are less than 350, how many millions watched it? The respondents are already set a bias with the nature of the article, it is asking what do you think the problem with this series doctor who was; it is loaded for a negative response and it would be expected that the respondents would be negative about it by and large.
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Quote:But I suppose all the people who didn't like it on that site are "sulkers" too.
Depends if they all jump all over posts that disagree with them.
, I also think Billie Piper