(20-06-2012 16:59 )gazfc Wrote: [ -> ]Mrmann do you have a female relatives?
Yes, and when they go to Dubai, I suspect they are off to escort
I know what you're saying, but if we can't have an open discussion here, then what is the point in having this thread in the first place?
It's not like we are outing anyone anyway, if that's even possible in the first place, unless of course someone wants to be sued if they release pics or vids or whatever, which I doubt anyone would do.
You have a good point gaz, but I don't think many of the women care about these comments, as they know the business they are in, and know the stigma that can follow it. Also, I doubt their family members are coming onto this forum, though it's possible I guess.
How would you feel if you heard people starting rumours that your sister/daughter involved in prositution?
Cause Basically thats all you're doing is starting rumours, in the future somebody, maybe a future employer will google said girls name and come across her name linked witt escorting and make a snap judgement on that girl based on some unfounded rumour.
This talk could really ruining somebody
(20-06-2012 17:12 )gazfc Wrote: [ -> ]How would you feel if you heard people starting rumours that your sister/daughter involved in prositution?
Cause Basically thats all you're doing is starting rumours, in the future somebody, maybe a future employer will google said girls name and come across her name linked witt escorting and make a snap judgement on that girl based on some unfounded rumour.
This talk could really ruining somebody
That's a good point, as all you have to do is Google "So and so escorting in Dubai" and some discussion will be shown, but wouldn't this employer know about their past as either a porn star or babe channel woman??? You'd think that if someone was hiring Ashley or Paige or Jessie Rogers, that they'd know about their past, considering all they'd have to do is Google their names, and presto, lots of nude pics of them would pop up, so do you really think they'd be less likely to hire them if they saw an escorting discussion about them, that wasn't even actual proof of them escorting? I don't think it would be an issue, unless these women were trying to hide everything in the adult industry they've done, and considering most of their careers have been involving them taking their clothes off on live TV, they can't really hide this anyway, unless they work for someone who doesn't have a computer or TV.
I just can't imagine someone denying work to a woman because she's been mentioned in an escort discussion, without any proof or claims that they have in fact escorted, but not denying them work if they've seen all of the live stripping they've done. This is for jobs NOT in the adult industry.
Know what I mean? If I'm a male stripper on live TV, I'm going to know that if I mention going to certain locations, that rumors will arise.
(20-06-2012 17:22 )mrmann Wrote: [ -> ] (20-06-2012 17:12 )gazfc Wrote: [ -> ]How would you feel if you heard people starting rumours that your sister/daughter involved in prositution?
Cause Basically thats all you're doing is starting rumours, in the future somebody, maybe a future employer will google said girls name and come across her name linked witt escorting and make a snap judgement on that girl based on some unfounded rumour.
This talk could really ruining somebody
That's a good point, as all you have to do is Google "So and so escorting in Dubai" and some discussion will be shown, but wouldn't this employer know about their past as either a porn star or babe channel woman??? You'd think that if someone was hiring Ashley or Paige or Jessie Rogers, that they'd know about their past, considering all they'd have to do is Google their names, and presto, lots of nude pics of them would pop up, so do you really think they'd be less likely to hire them if they saw an escorting discussion about them, that wasn't even actual proof of them escorting? I don't think it would be an issue, unless these women were trying to hide everything in the adult industry they've done, and considering most of their careers have been involving them taking their clothes off on live TV, they can't really hide this anyway, unless they work for someone who doesn't have a computer.
I just can't imagine someone denying work to a woman because she's been mentioned in an escort discussion, without any proof or claims that they have in fact escorted, but not denying them work if they've seen all of the live stripping they've done. This is for jobs NOT in the adult industry.
Know what I mean? If I'm a male stripper on live TV, I'm going to know that if I mention going to certain locations, that rumors will arise.
If a ex model applies for a job In the real world she will use her real name, not her modelling name, so unless the company are In the know how would anyone know she's done porn or escorted?
Alot of the girls use their real names and the topless/nude modelling is alot more acceptable to people these days but you mention sex for money to somebody and it's a whole different ball game.
It also doesnt matter if theres no proof, people still believe it, you dont have no proof but you still believe
(20-06-2012 17:41 )gazfc Wrote: [ -> ]Alot of the girls use their real names and the topless/nude modelling is alot more acceptable to people these days but you mention sex for money to somebody and it's a whole different ball game.
It also doesnt matter if theres no proof, people still believe it, you dont have no proof but you still believe
I'm certainly open to the idea of them escorting, regardless of the truth
If we see a babe channel woman on an escort site, on the open page, should we not mention it though? What's your take on that? We always hear the same old "Oh it's a fake profile", but we can't always be sure. Some of the women don't want to be on the front page, free to view for all, but how could we know? Others have had this happen in the past, and their profiles were deleted, but is it wrong for us to mention it, even when it's on a well known agency site?
(20-06-2012 17:46 )mrmann Wrote: [ -> ] (20-06-2012 17:41 )gazfc Wrote: [ -> ]Alot of the girls use their real names and the topless/nude modelling is alot more acceptable to people these days but you mention sex for money to somebody and it's a whole different ball game.
It also doesnt matter if theres no proof, people still believe it, you dont have no proof but you still believe
I'm certainly open to the idea of them escorting, regardless of the truth
If we see a babe channel woman on an escort site, on the open page, should we not mention it though? What's your take on that? We always hear the same old "Oh it's a fake profile", but we can't always be sure. Some of the women don't want to be on the front page, free to view for all, but how could we know? Others have had this happen in the past, and their profiles were deleted, but is it wrong for us to mention it, even when it's on a well known agency site?
If you know its her mention away but what you did was drag girls names into it like Danni Harwood, ashley emma an paige tyler, have you seen them on websites? no you just dragged somebodys name into it cause they've been on holiday.
This thread should be about genuine escorts not who people think may escort
I'll also post this cause it may make you think, It was posted on Tumblr by Elle Richie who recent had a trial with Elite
Quote:Something that i have been thinking about recently is the link between respect and glamour models. Do people respect glamour models? I am talking about basic levels of respect, being polite and courteous of their feelings.
Now i am fully aware of models having to do various jobs on the side to support their ‘dream’ of becoming a well paid/famous model. You can do whatever you want as long as it is not hurting anyone, i am open minded so basically, each to their own.
Two months ago i was messaged by a guy on the ‘Babeshow’ forums, asking me if i do Escorting too as he ‘knew alot of models did that on the side’. I was really shocked by this, not by the fact that models escort (like i said each to their own) but that a grown man would proposition a young woman about paying for a sexual encounter. This really got me thinking about how men talk to former/present glamour models. I assume that this man would not proposition his dentist or a woman in his office who was wearing a provocative shirt/skirt, so why did he feel that is was acceptable to ask a girl, who decided for a short period of time to try glamour modelling, if she was willing to accept money for sex?
I know for a fact this isn’t an isolated case and that other models have experienced the same messages and reactions from some men. The ‘Yo baby gimme ur number so we can hook up’ the ‘wanna suck my cock’ messages are not rare for some girls, just because they decided to pose topless they don’t deserve the same respect and other girls? I have always believed myself to be a polite and intelligent girl and respect and compassion is something i easily give others without a single thought, so it scares me to think that i might have tarnished my own reputation for deciding to pose with my breasts out in a magazine.
I don’t regret doing what i did for a second, i have really grown as a person and had some fun times and met a few really nice genuine people. But i would really want other girls to think about it fully before going into that industry as you CANT take it back. Is asking for respect too much to ask? or did i gladly waiver that right the second i took my top off? This is really something i wish would be addressed more often.
Good post, and BTW I've never propositioned any woman, so that was not me incase you are wondering
A bit naive of her to be surprised by someone asking her these questions though. I think for a lot of us, we tend to think women who strip on live TV are more likely to escort than our female dentist. I kind of feel the same way. If someone told me a well known glamour model did escorting, it wouldn't surprise me, but I think it has to do with the visual element of it. We know plenty of females who do non sexual jobs, and so we don't really imagine them escorting, or fit them into that sort of box, but with women who strip for a living and get men off on the phone, it's more easy to place them into or alongside the idea that perhaps they aren't above escorting here and there for some cash. I'm speaking for myself, but I don't think there's something wrong about thinking that way.
Still rude and classless of those people to write in that way to her!
Perhaps we should only mention known escorts, and shouldn't mention other women who go to Dubai, but that will mean that this section is heavily censored, and I don't think the others will agree to it.
(20-06-2012 18:33 )gazfc Wrote: [ -> ] (20-06-2012 17:46 )mrmann Wrote: [ -> ] (20-06-2012 17:41 )gazfc Wrote: [ -> ]Alot of the girls use their real names and the topless/nude modelling is alot more acceptable to people these days but you mention sex for money to somebody and it's a whole different ball game.
It also doesnt matter if theres no proof, people still believe it, you dont have no proof but you still believe
I'm certainly open to the idea of them escorting, regardless of the truth
If we see a babe channel woman on an escort site, on the open page, should we not mention it though? What's your take on that? We always hear the same old "Oh it's a fake profile", but we can't always be sure. Some of the women don't want to be on the front page, free to view for all, but how could we know? Others have had this happen in the past, and their profiles were deleted, but is it wrong for us to mention it, even when it's on a well known agency site?
If you know its her mention away but what you did was drag girls names into it like Danni Harwood, ashley emma an paige tyler, have you seen them on websites? no you just dragged somebodys name into it cause they've been on holiday.
This thread should be about genuine escorts not who people think may escort
I also post this cause it may make you think which was posted on Tumblr by Elle Richie
Quote:Something that i have been thinking about recently is the link between respect and glamour models. Do people respect glamour models? I am talking about basic levels of respect, being polite and courteous of their feelings.
Now i am fully aware of models having to do various jobs on the side to support their ‘dream’ of becoming a well paid/famous model. You can do whatever you want as long as it is not hurting anyone, i am open minded so basically, each to their own.
Two months ago i was messaged by a guy on the ‘Babeshow’ forums, asking me if i do Escorting too as he ‘knew alot of models did that on the side’. I was really shocked by this, not by the fact that models escort (like i said each to their own) but that a grown man would proposition a young woman about paying for a sexual encounter. This really got me thinking about how men talk to former/present glamour models. I assume that this man would not proposition his dentist or a woman in his office who was wearing a provocative shirt/skirt, so why did he feel that is was acceptable to ask a girl, who decided for a short period of time to try glamour modelling, if she was willing to accept money for sex?
I know for a fact this isn’t an isolated case and that other models have experienced the same messages and reactions from some men. The ‘Yo baby gimme ur number so we can hook up’ the ‘wanna suck my cock’ messages are not rare for some girls, just because they decided to pose topless they don’t deserve the same respect and other girls? I have always believed myself to be a polite and intelligent girl and respect and compassion is something i easily give others without a single thought, so it scares me to think that i might have tarnished my own reputation for deciding to pose with my breasts out in a magazine.
I don’t regret doing what i did for a second, i have really grown as a person and had some fun times and met a few really nice genuine people. But i would really want other girls to think about it fully before going into that industry as you CANT take it back. Is asking for respect too much to ask? or did i gladly waiver that right the second i took my top off? This is really something i wish would be addressed more often.
So what was her answer, does Elle Richie escort?
(20-06-2012 18:43 )mrmann Wrote: [ -> ]...
Perhaps we should only mention known escorts, and shouldn't mention other women who go to Dubai, but that will mean that this section is heavily censored, and I don't think the others will agree to it.
How would this be any different from not mentioning when a 'slip' happens on screen, in order to protect the channels from Ofcom action?
You yourself have supported the idea of keeping quiet about slips that have happened. These are real genuine things that we know have definitely happened. Yet at the same time, you are quite happy to speculate about specific girls being escorts based on nothing more than geography!
Many of the girls live in London. There are escorts in London, so does that mean all those girls are escorts?
It's a nonsense argument.
I'd say if you know a girl escorts it's fine to mention it. If a girls name or photo appears on an escort site, even if it turns out to be a fake profile, as so many are, it's fine to mention it. But to name specific girls and imply they
may escort simply because they are in the glamour industry and go to a certain destination, is highly disrespectful to that girl and shouldn't be done, and shouldn't be tolerated by this forum.