OTHER PETITIONS
Thought Id see what other petitions are out there. Here are some keyword search results...
R18 - just this one, 313 votes
PORN
Block Internet Porn - 15 signatures
ban gay and straight porn on Internet and TV - 2
Require British pornography to be mosaiced - 1
BAN PORNOGRAPHY FROM NEWSAGENTS AND PETROL STATIONS - 262
ban free tube-style video pornography websites - 2
Ban 'Page 3' - 2
Internet Content Blocking - 81 (against it)
Strong deterrents for adults who buy unsuitable material for children - 2
SEX / ADULT
Make paying for sex illegal - 2
Increase the age Sexual consent to 18 - 9
Crimilisation of clients who buy sex - 13
Prohibit any form of sex education in primary schools - 43
Compulsory Sex and Relationship Education - 46
Raise the age of sexual consent and marriage to 25 - 2
Censorship of Sexualised Images in National Newspapers - 4
Petition to ban the openly sexist "Loose Women" from the media industry - 3
protect 18 rated games from censorship - 1
Oppose some MP's wish to censor the internet with opt-in schemes - 3
BAN unnecessary violence in the media outlets - 7 (what is "necessary" violence?)
Soap operas and reality television shows should only be shown after 10pm - 5
Save Our Lollipop People - 223 (Amanda Rendell and Jemma Jay?)
Move the TV watershed from 9pm to 10:30pm - 40
make Premium Rate telephone services illegal in the United Kingdom - 10
Protection from Full Frontal Nudity in Public Places - 164
OTHER
Top Gear Should be Removed from our Screens - 2
Investigate any bias at OFCOM - 1 (favouring the BBC)
Scrap Ofcom and split its regulatory functions - 201
i wonder what would happen if they pixellated out all male genatalia and showed female genatalia only like us males have had to put up with for decades..All the women would be in outrage saying how sexist it is showing vaginas and all mens bits are clouded out..Women masturbate as much as men and love to look ..Of com is who needs the sex education i would love to pixellate them out out sexist feckers..Ofcom have made the vagina taboo its all in their sexist stupid peabrained head.s.They show mens they show womens period
What about the lesbian community they never get a look in..I dont know any lesbians but they might sign the petition.I am sending a letter to sport newspaper on the subject..A lot of my mates have no computers and 2 are family men and dont watch much tv..I am not stopping i never have done for over 20 years..Bloody blood boling fuming sexist numptys..
Another thing that keeps happening is people quoting rules..Rules like they cant touch their vagina with no knickers on or they cant show female genatalia because they could be turned on..Who says this,who says these rules,,,Ofcom. What about these rules,you cannot show a penis is the foreskin is pulled back,,you cant show a penis with both testicles in view..Do you see what i mean,ofcom put these rules into everyones head and even people on this forum quote them,,There are no rules it what ofcom has made up and told everyone and installed in their heads..If in the beggining ofcom said you cannot show both testicles in full view while the penis is in shot or the penis must not have the foreskin retracted more than 5% then these would be the rules...
I hope you understand what i am getting at..These rules are made up and made the female vagina taboo...What if in the beggining they made the male penis taboo..Its all in their heads and in yours and the countrys...Female genatalia is just that and male genatalia is just that the only difference is what ofcom make you and the british public believe..There is no reason why the above penis shots could not have been made up as rules its just ofcom are twats.Do you see what i mean ,all the quotes you lot are saying are made up by ofcom any rule can be made up..No woman is mastubating they just say that she could be scratching herself..
What if top gear was on and they showed vauxhall cars but pixellated out ford cars...When asked the presenters say its because ofcom said they cannot show ford cars...Do you see how childish it is, this debate is here because ofcom made up some rules and everyone in the UK just adheres to them and excepts that that is the norm whereas in the beggining it could have been the penis thats taboo on tv..If that happened then today all the women would be having this petition saying oh i cant bloody believe they show fannys but pixellate out penises its unfair and sexist.The thing is the females would be shouting from the rooftops and causing riots yet we have to put up with it..So thats my rant for today "THERE ARE NO RULES ONLY IN OFCOMS HEAD".
I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!
Interesting points hatesexistofcom. As a bit of devil's advocate (and very much for the fun of bluesky thinking) one might say that just because it is all in our heads, and ofcom's, and the country's, does that fact make a difference to the issue? Similarly, presumably sexual impulses, appreciating beauty, feeling emotional distress or moral outrage are also going on 'in our heads' as it were. Perhaps no less objective or normative or important for all that.
But it is a good thing to expose how arbitrary some of the judgements seem when drawn attention to, such as the penis vagina disparity. But presumably again there are other judgements that dont seem so arbitrary when said out loud, such as 'its not a good idea to let children see/use hardcore pornography at an early age'.
(18-10-2011 00:33 )eccles Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Winston, long time no hear. Always good to get an alternative take.
100,000 signatures would be nice, but difficult to achieve. But thats not the end of the story. For starters its important to show that there is more support for liberalisation than restriction. Failure to do that would give a green light to censorship.
Second, MPs are very sensitive to voter pressure. Every MP will tell you that one letter gets their attention but not for long. Two makes them take a bit more interest. But if they get just 3-5 letters on the same subject they realise something is going on. They know that only a tiny minority of people actually interested in an issue will put pen to paper, so a handful of letters often represents much larger local interest, and that can affect their chance of reelection.
Dont kid yourself, some MPs will browse the petition website to spot the latest bandwaggon or just see which way the wind is blowing. And even if they dont, the relevant Ministries should.
Poor promotion? Yes, Ill put my hand up to that. Theres only so many hours in the day and some ideas have not taken off the way I thought they would. But there are huge areas I havent even started yet. Other members are promoting it elsewhere, and a slow burn campaign will gradually gain momentum and may suddenly capture the imagination. In the meanwhile it is going forward.
The numbers so far are respectable compared to Ofcom consultations over the years:
> Broadcasting Code initial consultation (14/7/2004) - lots of media attention, organised campaigns, total of 576 responses for & against regulation/deregulation.
> Participation TV (15/12/2006) - proposal to basically close babe channels, just 18 responses
> Particpation TV 2 (9/4/2008) - revised response after Ofcom backed down a bit - 42 responses
> Broadcasting Code Review (15/6/2009) - another opportunity to permit R18 or tighten up, organised campaign by a Church group - 220 responses
> Regulation of Video on Demand (14/9/2009) - licencing & controlling VOD - just 35 responses
> Participation TV 3 (3/11/2009) - 28 responses
300 may not be masses, but even 300 proves a higher level of interest than most of the above.
As for Hillsborough and other blockbuster petitions, these tend to be backed by a newspaper campaign (Hillsborough, cuts) or are linked to high profile events (Hillsborough, riots, cuts). Of course this campaign doesnt attract the same level of interest, but the powers that be know that the rate at which interest translates into action varies.
Please share if you have ideas for making the petition take off, otherwise all mentions on other sites and social media gratefully recieved.
(18-10-2011 00:43 )eccles Wrote: [ -> ]Winston did ask some good questions that I overlooked
Which channel owners and industry investors have you pitched this petition to?
I have contacted some privately, but private communications are exactly that, private. Obviously not much take up yet. This evening I started new threads, but need to rethink that.
Have you contacted any high-profile names in the adult industry?
I dont have contacts. Volunteers?
Who have you contacted in the media?
A few names you would recognise, but private comms are private. Will start working the press when I get round to it. Again, all help appreciated specially from people with experience in this area.
Just so you know, as things stand, I'm only
considering giving your petition my support and getting it from elsewhere - but, at the moment, I've got too much on my plate.
PS - I know an owner of a mainstream film company, but I don't think he would appreciate you using the film industry as an example in your campaign. Just a thought...
its beeen said it before but unless the phones stop ringing the producers of these shows will do nothing,you could tell it was a wendsday last night because the shows in mid week have not been generating as many calls they spice things up a bit,watch the week end again and see how shit they are , i wont say all but some of the girls look pissed of half the time not being able to move without their say so the rest just jiggle their tits all night and expect us to think its entertainment,if you spend 15 minutes on the phone to these shows at the moment let me tell you what you are missing,for the same cost you could have a stripper do a private show for 50 quid ,so save your money
Quote:Scrap Ofcom and split its regulatory functions - 201
If only we could get those 201 people on board, that would boost the petition big time.
My rant sort of started before the internet was around,,we has some vhs tapes,private shops and mags..A women could see a penis on UK tv but men could not see a vagina..I dont really want to see shagging on tele its pretty boring just males treated same as females...The trouble is we have to aim high in the petition to get things done at a lower level... What i mean is round our area its 21 years of age to buy cigarrettes so that it hopes to cover variancys meaning the age is bound to be over the 16 age limit..Most nightclubs are 21-25 years of age in the pyschology that it will mean it that an average will be over the age of 18 ..If the above levels are set at 16 years of age or 18 years of age their will be a majority of underage people..
People put a high price on stuff they sell to get the price they want,,,so the person wants £300 for a laptop they put the price in the local rag for £400..When a person comes along they offer £350 and the sale goes ahead..Sometimes i try to explain stuff but not to good so i give scenarios...This petition is aiming quite high but a compromise may be met if we get the signatures. we need to go ahead..
I have reposted on twitter but a lot of my followers are outside UK and not the target audience but even if one signs up it helps..I written to sport newspaper with basic explanation of our petition and said if it could be passed round or retweeted or facebooked...I dont use facebook i am too old but the sport newspaper pushes boundarys all the time with more daring shots thats why i choose them..We will have to try to bring this to the publics attention i mean all males must see these programmes and see these pixellations and thought this is sexist..Anyhow thats it for today been busy but will keep up with the petition and keep thinking as well.
On the sexist tip, what about "Loose Women" Could you imagine a show where blokes sit around slagging off their wives / girlfriends wishing they'd just fuck off back to the kitchen and do the dinner!
There'd be up roar!
(20-10-2011 05:56 )hatesexistofcom Wrote: [ -> ]Another thing that keeps happening is people quoting rules..Rules like they cant touch their vagina with no knickers on or they cant show female genatalia because they could be turned on..Who says this,who says these rules,,,Ofcom. What about these rules,you cannot show a penis is the foreskin is pulled back,,you cant show a penis with both testicles in view..Do you see what i mean,ofcom put these rules into everyones head and even people on this forum quote them,,There are no rules it what ofcom has made up and told everyone and installed in their heads..If in the beggining ofcom said you cannot show both testicles in full view while the penis is in shot or the penis must not have the foreskin retracted more than 5% then these would be the rules...
I hope you understand what i am getting at..These rules are made up and made the female vagina taboo...What if in the beggining they made the male penis taboo..Its all in their heads and in yours and the countrys...Female genatalia is just that and male genatalia is just that the only difference is what ofcom make you and the british public believe..There is no reason why the above penis shots could not have been made up as rules its just ofcom are twats.Do you see what i mean ,all the quotes you lot are saying are made up by ofcom any rule can be made up..No woman is mastubating they just say that she could be scratching herself..
What if top gear was on and they showed vauxhall cars but pixellated out ford cars...When asked the presenters say its because ofcom said they cannot show ford cars...Do you see how childish it is, this debate is here because ofcom made up some rules and everyone in the UK just adheres to them and excepts that that is the norm whereas in the beggining it could have been the penis thats taboo on tv..If that happened then today all the women would be having this petition saying oh i cant bloody believe they show fannys but pixellate out penises its unfair and sexist.The thing is the females would be shouting from the rooftops and causing riots yet we have to put up with it..So thats my rant for today "THERE ARE NO RULES ONLY IN OFCOMS HEAD".
Ofcom in my opinion, should have left the babe channels the way they were, there was no harm in 241's or 341's or babes touching themselves? however 2011 has been a disastrous year for the babe channels, and i still don't understand the reasons why? When you look back over the last 2 to 3yrs we've enjoyed great nights of Adult entertainment, however at this moment in time we don't.
The question we ask ourselves is why has Ofcom got involved now? any answers on a postcard please lol. Hopefully Ofcom will either be deregulated or finish for good or some other regulating body will take it on, who know's, but as things stand, things can't carry on like this for much longer.