(01-01-2024 12:28 )Steamtrain Wrote: [ -> ]For example you keep loosing your highest earner (maybe not by this forums standards but I can bet my wage no one came close to Harley, Michelle Moist and Peach in actual calls on many occasions…) then you only have to look at what is left to bring the callers in.
Lol
Have you conveniently left out Clara Croft.
Having just won 3 Babeshow Awards for the 2nd year running I'd say that's proof enough, & yes she is busy on the phones, of course we have no actual stats to back that up.
Maybe wrong to compare Michelle who left XP ages ago & Vicki, both nightshow babes, despite Vicki doing some days.
I dread to think what would happen to Clara if Expanded go under. Would she be prepared to do stuff to meet tip goals on BS? Would she do private shows?
In 2022 Michelle Moist was my favourite babe, in 2023 not so much. Sure she goes naked and does more extreme shows on BS, but sometimes when she's on she gets relegated to the web so I can only see her on a 14" computer screen rather than a large screen TV. Also she spends much of her time behind pay walls. On Expanded she was fta all night on my large screen TV, unless she was on a break or went home early.
(01-01-2024 12:28 )Steamtrain Wrote: [ -> ]When I rang the show and asked Harley about not being on the slides she said she didn’t want to as she has her own business and they keep the girls on there even after they they have left the show … thinking about it maybe I should have asked if she was leaving! 
No chance of being pushed Harley is liquid gold to xpanded.
I did message Harley yesterday in the hope to get some feed back and she just sent a lovely happy new year message but maybe she’s waiting for the new year to tell everyone her plans!?
After chatting quite a bit with Harley on the show I got the feeling she isn’t the kind of girl to stand for falsity, be easy to manipulate (or there just to win a popularity contest).
I think (not that anything I say will make much of a difference) the people who leave seem to have the strongest support online and the highest volume of callers so to me that strikes a problem in house. (If a football team kept loosing their best players you would question why)
For example you keep loosing your highest earner (maybe not by this forums standards but I can bet my wage no one came close to Harley, Michelle Moist and Peach in actual calls on many occasions…) then you only have to look at what is left to bring the callers in.
The Xpanded set up is like judging a footballer based on his hair rather than the amount of goals scored.
I have clicked onto Xpanded a few times the past couple of weeks and i would get making yourself an ‘I told you so’ banner … because the writing is undoubtedly on the wall for Xpanded.
Valuable contribution 'Steamtrain' You are correct I think in every respect! I agree that Harley (Hannah M S Rae Rae etc) would (or at least should) not be pushed out, but nor do I think they would/will just wait around for the inevitable if that is what it turns out to be, and given the state those with the power to make decisions at Xpanded have got the channel into in such a short space of time, I can't see much hope of anything other than - as I say - the 'inevitable'!
It has been a long while since Harley has been on, and not withstanding her not being very well, and to an extent, the Xmas break, The longer it is.............?????
I agree the state of the show is somewhat questionable. I have been flicking over to watch on and off and I have to say I cringed a number of times. I hate to use the word desperate but it certainly springs to mind.
From what I know between the two platforms Xp is a day rate and BS is piece work so two totally different platforms in the way the girls ‘have’ to work - leading xp girls to be able to turn up and get paid a decent enough wage. They might still have their targets but not a major increase. So this will suit certain girls (I read a few of the girls have come from other Channels …: so to keep up with my football analogy, I see it as they leave the premier league (bs) and go to (LA galaxy) others might not stand for the capping and lack of opportunity. From our side it looks like they have plenty of opportunity but given the no pay wall etc I can imagine if you are someone like Harley
for looks and personality who brought in such a high volume of calls it would be far more profitable at BS.
as I read Michelle moist isn’t on BS half as much maybe she’s just on twice as much money so doesn’t have to be
On another note - I am pretty sure harley has left (or hopefully has had a transfer from Everton to Manchester United)
(“old reference but it works”) she has taken off her advertising for XP on her twitter. I hope she does go to bs because it would be a shame to totally loose her. I think it would validate our concerns as viewers considering her background in business and the lack of choice of between channels now.
So we have lost Harley to BS, and she is doing backstage!! Strange times! I wonder what made her decide to go and agree to the type of show - albeit not on TV - that she said no too at XTV?? More Sad times indeed! Xpanded management are a joke and a disgrace!!