(26-12-2010 22:07 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2010 21:25 )blackjaques Wrote: [ -> ]Of course, it's not happenning is it. Ofcon are, once again, using their shit argument of protection of children to justify their huge fear of full R18 being available on UK television. They are absolutely scared shitless of this happenning and what it might do to our society.
Oh yes it is happening, I remember on a frequent basis when I used to work in a uk having to ring up parents of kids who had phoned in and as far as i'm aware kids are still phoning and texting the shows.
How old are these kids?
13+ plus, they see harder stuff on topshelf in their local cornershop and on the net. the babechannels alot tammer than topshelf and internet
i've had as young as 6 and a coupe round that age, but most 10 +, did have one idiot phone 2 days before his 18th birthday once.
she's not wrong. a few times i have been on the phone and the girl was busy telling a kid that they had to be 18 to call. its happend 3-4 times now all at different times of day and night...
parents should really child lock there sky boxes and thats not ofcoms job. the thing that bugs me most about the protecting kids argument is that they are trying to take responcability for a job they shouldn't be doing, its up to parents to protect there children. but because ofcom try to do it the parents often get complacent. if parents knew r18 material was freely available and ofcom had no say, the vast majority would make sure there boxes are well ad truly locked off.
then again most kids wont phone back 1s there parents get the phone bill and they want to know why 1 call cost em 10 pounds or more. embarrassment factor works wonders...
(27-12-2010 09:32 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]she's not wrong. a few times i have been on the phone and the girl was busy telling a kid that they had to be 18 to call. its happend 3-4 times now all at different times of day and night...
parents should really child lock there sky boxes and thats not ofcoms job. the thing that bugs me most about the protecting kids argument is that they are trying to take responcability for a job they shouldn't be doing, its up to parents to protect there children. but because ofcom try to do it the parents often get complacent. if parents knew r18 material was freely available and ofcom had no say, the vast majority would make sure there boxes are well ad truly locked off.
then again most kids wont phone back 1s there parents get the phone bill and they want to know why 1 call cost em 10 pounds or more. embarrassment factor works wonders...
Don't know if it still happens, but the Radio Times used to print a message to readers in every edition regarding the watershed.
It basically said that programmes broadcast before 9pm were intended to be viewed by a family audience. Programmes broadcast after this time were intended for more mature audiences and
parents were expected to take responsibility for what there children were watching.Sounds like common sense to me, but you know what they say - common sense isn't that common these days!
Ofcom seem to have a thing about under 18's viewing these channels , when it's been pointed out that they are in a adult section that can be removed or pin protected by parents ofcom use the excuse that some parents don't know how to remove or pin protect channels , so Ofcom say the specialist adult section and the availability of pin protection doesn't give much protection in ensuring minors don't accidentally come across adult channels , so surly if Ofcom say they have a duty to protect children from the awful and traumatising site of a girl in a bikini on daytime tv and a fully naked girl on tv after the watershed then they should instead of penalising the channels and restricting the viewing pleasure of adults Ofcom should make sure the halfwit parents know how to remove or pin protect the adult channels . If Ofcom genuinely believe the adult channels cause serious harm to children that stumble across them then they should make sure parents receive help and instruction on how to prevent these channels being accessed by children , they could make sure that Sky and freview set top boxes/TV's don't allow automatic access to the adult section like they do now , instead of manually removing adult channels they should make it so you manually have to add adult sections , Ofcom should also make sure instructions are given out during tv adverts on non adult channels how to remove or pin protect adult sections on Sky and freeview , instructions and warnings should also be given out in tv listing in magazines and news papers how to remove or pin protect the adult channels . Surly if Ofcom think parents don't know how to prevent children from viewing channels then they should spend some time and effort and make bloody sure they do instead of bringing new restrictive rules out .
Ofcom shouldn't be telling parents how to put Pins on their boxes, sky should.
(26-12-2010 01:41 )DonnaDukesFan Wrote: [ -> ]I havent read the entire thread but can someone tell me ofcom's rule against spitting or baby oil/cream?
Anyone?
(27-12-2010 14:40 )mh92 Wrote: [ -> ]Ofcom shouldn't be telling parents how to put Pins on their boxes, sky should.
Yes i agree with that , but not just Sky freeview as well , but what i am saying is if Ofcom themselves or Sky and freeview people (whoever they are) make sure that they show how to pin protect/remove adult channels on regular non adult channels and magazine tv listings then Ofcom could not keep repeating that the adult sections don't give much more protection in preventing children from stumbling on to the adult channels because parents don't know how to pin protect/remove adult channels , any parent that complains to ofcom that they caught their children watching the babes shows wouldn't be able to tell Ofcom that they didn't know how to pin protect /remove adult channels if the info was shown how to do so on tv and magazines on a regular basis .
(27-12-2010 15:17 )mr mystery Wrote: [ -> ] (27-12-2010 14:40 )mh92 Wrote: [ -> ]Ofcom shouldn't be telling parents how to put Pins on their boxes, sky should.
Well to be honest i don't believe anyone should be telling parents how to pin protect boxes or what they let their children watch , parents themselves should be responsible for what their children do or do not watch and make sure they no how pin protect channels for themselves , this country is already to much of a nanny state as it is with the government and Ofcom thinking they now what is best for us and our children when in truth they know fuck all , but what i am saying is if Ofcom themselves or Sky and freeview people (whoever they are) make sure that they show how to pin protect/remove adult channels on regular non adult channels and magazine tv listings then Ofcom could not keep repeating that the adult sections don't give much more protection in preventing children from stumbling on to the adult channels because parents don't know how to pin protect/remove adult channels , any parent that complains to ofcom that they caught their children watching the babes shows wouldn't be able to tell Ofcom that they didn't know how to pin protect /remove adult channels if the info was shown how to do so on tv and magazines .
I'm going to agree with you both on that, it should by sky telling parents how to do it, but they shouldn't be forcing parents to do it.