(25-12-2010 23:13 )StanTheMan Wrote: [ -> ]Fair enough, RCTV, that may be the hard facts, but it doesn't explain why you yourself didn't approve of the dayshows before the new rules were introduced.
They weren't following the advice as it then was and thinknig that nothing would happen as it was advice.
(26-12-2010 00:04 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ]They weren't following the advice as it then was and thinknig that nothing would happen as it was advice.
Sorry, don't understand what you're saying at all. What I'm trying to establish - Ofcom rules aside - is why you yourself, as a viewer, were so obviously against what the dayshows had become.
because they had gone from tasteful channels, to channels which were basically the night channel, just they weren't getting their tits out (Well trying not to), and they should of been more clothed as many of the things which happened, wouldn't of happened, and then the bang media shit wouldn't of happened.
I havent read the entire thread but can someone tell me ofcom's rule against spitting or baby oil/cream?
(26-12-2010 00:09 )StanTheMan Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2010 00:04 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ]They weren't following the advice as it then was and thinknig that nothing would happen as it was advice.
Sorry, don't understand what you're saying at all. What I'm trying to establish - Ofcom rules aside - is why you yourself, as a viewer, were so obviously against what the dayshows had become.
Its not often that I get to see the dayshows, but when I did some seemed little short of night shows. Skimpy see through underwear, crotch shots, waggling bums at camera. Great fun and I enjoyed it, but I also like the idea that there is something to stop out of control adults watching erotic shows while their kids or granny are around, and a day/night divide. Also its a great relaxer for parents to know that at a certain time no channels are transmitting soft porn, and they can let the kids have TV access without having to vet the channels being accessed. Im in favour of late night adult content but against out and out adult content during the day and early evening.
(26-12-2010 03:39 )eccles Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2010 00:09 )StanTheMan Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2010 00:04 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ]They weren't following the advice as it then was and thinknig that nothing would happen as it was advice.
Sorry, don't understand what you're saying at all. What I'm trying to establish - Ofcom rules aside - is why you yourself, as a viewer, were so obviously against what the dayshows had become.
Its not often that I get to see the dayshows, but when I did some seemed little short of night shows. Skimpy see through underwear, crotch shots, waggling bums at camera. Great fun and I enjoyed it, but I also like the idea that there is something to stop out of control adults watching erotic shows while their kids or granny are around, and a day/night divide. Also its a great relaxer for parents to know that at a certain time no channels are transmitting soft porn, and they can let the kids have TV access without having to vet the channels being accessed. Im in favour of late night adult content but against out and out adult content during the day and early evening.
Couldn't agree more Eccles. It's always good to read your carefully-considered, sensible opinions amidst the tidal-wave of intemperate, ill-thought-out, illiterate crap that pass for posts in this section.
Eccles agree with you there about levels, which is what I was trying to more or less say earlier (although I was ment to be working) and it was actually more the daytime stuff, which caused these to be made into rules as tbh there wasn't much night time stuff compared, but they have quite a good idea to put a couple of rules in for night time while putting ones in foir daytime. Eccles you have sense and aren't like some guys on here who love the channels and live in their own bubble and don't think kids will ever get access to them and that PIN locking the channels is the answer.
DonnaDukesFan I would guess 10pm
(26-12-2010 11:46 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ]Eccles you have sense and aren't like some guys on here who love the channels and live in their own bubble and don't think kids will ever get access to them and that PIN locking the channels is the answer.
I'm still waiting for these people who insist PIN protection isn't sufficient to explain why exactly.
The stock answer is usually 'Because kids can crack the PIN' but that's absolute bollocks and a very lazy answer. Kids
can't crack the PIN at all, if that PIN is random. For the parents stupid enough to use birthdays and such as their PIN can't really care that much about what their kids access.
I'm sick and tired of being held responsible for other people's kids! Why does my viewing have to be restricted because of the parents out there who can't look after children?
And furthermore, no one has explained why it matters what time adult material is being broadcast. If kids are watching totally naked babes at night, then why the hell does it matter if they see a flash of knicker and/or nipple slip during the day???
(26-12-2010 17:49 )StanTheMan Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2010 11:46 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ]Eccles you have sense and aren't like some guys on here who love the channels and live in their own bubble and don't think kids will ever get access to them and that PIN locking the channels is the answer.
I'm still waiting for these people who insist PIN protection isn't sufficient to explain why exactly.
The stock answer is usually 'Because kids can crack the PIN' but that's absolute bollocks and a very lazy answer. Kids can't crack the PIN at all, if that PIN is random. For the parents stupid enough to use birthdays and such as their PIN can't really care that much about what their kids access.
I'm sick and tired of being held responsible for other people's kids! Why does my viewing have to be restricted because of the parents out there who can't look after children?
And furthermore, no one has explained why it matters what time adult material is being broadcast. If kids are watching totally naked babes at night, then why the hell does it matter if they see a flash of knicker and/or nipple slip during the day???
Despite what Ofcon say, it's not about child protection. That's just a bullshit smokescreen for a fear of what might happen if full R18 was shown on British tv.
Take the latest dumbing down by Babestation Extreme. To watch this channel you are required to enter your card details every time.
How many kids have access to their parents credit/debit cards?
Of all the people who subscribe on a particular night, can Ofcon tell me how many of those who are watching are children?
It's one thing knowing a pin number but it's something else when these kids are accessing their parents' credit cards on a regular basis.
Are we to believe that parents, in addition to them not knowing if their kids are accessing porn on tv, on the internet, on their moblie phone, are now oblivious to the fact that their kids are also using their own payment cards to enjoy it. FFS, what a load of absolute bollox.
Of course, it's not happenning is it. Ofcon are, once again, using their shit argument of protection of children to justify their huge fear of full R18 being available on UK television. They are absolutely scared shitless of this happenning and what it might do to our society.
(26-12-2010 21:25 )blackjaques Wrote: [ -> ]Of course, it's not happenning is it. Ofcon are, once again, using their shit argument of protection of children to justify their huge fear of full R18 being available on UK television. They are absolutely scared shitless of this happenning and what it might do to our society.
Oh yes it is happening, I remember on a frequent basis when I used to work in a uk having to ring up parents of kids who had phoned in and as far as i'm aware kids are still phoning and texting the shows.