(22-07-2013 16:19 )D T Wrote: [ -> ] (22-07-2013 16:12 )elgar1uk Wrote: [ -> ]What rules have been broken then? I thought BSX output was fully in accordance with NICAM requirements.
Is penetration allowed to be shown on television in the UK?
It is on my tv.
Although I use hotbird or astra satellite tv to get it.
(22-07-2013 21:17 )Tintin Wrote: [ -> ]I can put the blame on 2 things why the BSX shows gone.
1. The stupid unwanted OSG's = If BS cared more about their customers instead of them self's the show would be unbeatable....
2. The stupid GAY FUCKER behind the camera constantly had the cam zoomed in way to much which ended up give us an 90% crap show nearly every night...
I think I may have already inferred that remark.
As i have never watched any BSX shows i find it difficult to pass comment on them shutting down. Usually i go by the reviews people tend to post on the forum, and if you can tell it,s going to be a crap night simply by whose going to be on then you really are in trouble.
As the saying goes " fool me once shame on you "
(22-07-2013 23:01 )lancealot790 Wrote: [ -> ]As i have never watched any BSX shows i find it difficult to pass comment on them shutting down. Usually i go by the reviews people tend to post on the forum, and if you can tell it,s going to be a crap night simply by whose going to be on then you really are in trouble.
As the saying goes " fool me once shame on you "
Well I told you once and I told you twice
You never listen to my advice
You don't try very hard to please me
With what you know it should be easy
Well this could be the last time
This could be the last time
Maybe the last time I don't know, oh no,
oh no
Thanks to Mick Jagger
He knew better than us
(22-07-2013 15:09 )BarrieBF Wrote: [ -> ]I think everyone's getting confused here and are misquoting and misunderstanding what BSX have said. BSX weren't shutdown because of screencaps and they never claimed that they were. What they actually said is that the availability of screencaps made it easy for rival broadcasters to submit complaints about BSX.
If rival broadcasters were intent on submitting complaints about BSX they wouldn't be relying on the off-chance that someone on here might post caps they could use.
They'd be paying their £3 and making their own recordings.
(22-07-2013 22:19 )vila Wrote: [ -> ]Eh??? They weren't shut down because of screencaps but because of the availability of screencaps?
You're gonna have to explain that one to me, 'cos it's scrambling my brains at the moment.
BSX wasn't shut down because of screencaps and it wasn't shut down because of the availability of screencaps either. The authorities would have come to their views on the channel by asking for recordings and then going through hours and hours of the supplied footage to verify that the material was too strong for the UK market.
(23-07-2013 09:41 )BarrieBF Wrote: [ -> ] (22-07-2013 22:19 )vila Wrote: [ -> ]Eh??? They weren't shut down because of screencaps but because of the availability of screencaps?
You're gonna have to explain that one to me, 'cos it's scrambling my brains at the moment.
BSX wasn't shut down because of screencaps and it wasn't shut down because of the availability of screencaps either. The authorities would have come to their views on the channel by asking for recordings and then going through hours and hours of the supplied footage to verify that the material was too strong for the UK market.
So who are these authorities you are talking about that asked for recordings and went through hours and hours of footage to verify that the material was to strong for TV ?, Ofcom have stated the Dutch BS channels are out of their jurisdiction and remit, as Ofcom have said they pass on any complaints they may receive to NICAM to deal with, so are you saying the Dutch regulator is the one that's done this ?.
Any time Ofcom investigate and ask for recordings etc it has to be published in their broadcast bulletins, nothing has been mentioned about BSX in any Ofcom statements/bulletins .
{edit} People do realise that for the authorities to launch investigations, request recordings and then shut down channels etc, that it is a long processes involving Solicitors and channel representatives etc, every thing has to be transparent and made public when they do this, authorities that shut down channels have to make sure they do things in the correct way and do not breach any UK/European laws themselves by doing so. So if it was the authorities that shut down BSX with only a few hours notice as assumed by some people and not BSX themselves just axing the channel why was nothing published by any authority ? .
(23-07-2013 10:53 )mr mystery Wrote: [ -> ]So who are these authorities you are talking about that asked for recordings and went through hours and hours of footage to verify that the material was to strong for TV ?
Ofcom.
In that link that you posted yourself it states that "Ofcom has the power to act against UK-based broadcasters that offer R18 content or hardcore pornography." How would they know if a channel was dabbling in R18 content unless they went through channel output hour by hour to see for themselves what was being broadcast?
(23-07-2013 12:14 )BarrieBF Wrote: [ -> ] (23-07-2013 10:53 )mr mystery Wrote: [ -> ]So who are these authorities you are talking about that asked for recordings and went through hours and hours of footage to verify that the material was to strong for TV ?
Ofcom.
In that link that you posted yourself it states that "Ofcom has the power to act against UK-based broadcasters that offer R18 content or hardcore pornography." How would they know if a channel was dabbling in R18 content unless they went through channel output hour by hour to see for themselves what was being broadcast?
Ofcom say in that link they cannot ban or block hardcore pornography if the channel is regulated and licensed abroad even when shown on UK tv, they are talking about being able to act against Uk based broadcasters with a Ofcom licence and highlighting that they are powerless to ban or block Dutch based broadcasters that don't have a Ofcom licence.
The link i gave was about Ofcom complaining about the free to air Dutch licensed BS channels by the way were Ofcom say BS could be breaking UK laws (not their rules) by giving links to R18 websites free to air (it's allowed on encrypted channels)
UK laws do not allow R18 material to be shown on TV , NICAM have to bear in mind UK Laws when regulating broadcasts in the UK ,the broadcaster of BSX is Dutch and based in Holland, Game Networks BV is the channel owner/broadcaster of BSX not BS, and is regulated by NICAM not Ofcom, that's why Ocom say they do not have powers over them and do not deal with complaints' it's out of their jurisdiction/remit as stated by Ofcom (not me) .
(23-07-2013 12:34 )mr mystery Wrote: [ -> ]UK laws do not allow R18 material to be shown on TV
I'm still not 100% convinced that's true!
I know it used to be banned in the Video Recordings Act of 1984, which was then later proved to be not worth the paper it was written on so it was rushed through parliament again.
However, whether to allow R18 broadcasting was definitely part of the pre-Ofcom consultation, so it was clearly an option at that point.
And the only current reference I can find about R18 broadcasting is within the Ofcom where it simply states "R18 may not be broadcast"
I am aware that there exist restirictions in British Law on the mail order of R18 DVDs (illegal) and the selling of R18 DVDs outside licensed sex shops (illegal), but obviously R18 magazines ARE legally available from any newsagent, and a few of the ones in my local newsagent have included free DVDs that genuinely were R18 (slipped through as foreign mag imports I believe).
But I haven't found any current law that prohibits R18 broadcasts, which are obviously not the same as R18 DVDs.
Confusing bloody country we live in - you can buy R18 mags anywhere, R18 DVDs only in licensed shops, and R18 TV not at all!
Is there any other product whose ownership is done in so many different ways?