(22-01-2012 15:27 )Regenerated Wrote: [ -> ]The channels are what they are, they're not all bad as certain people keep wanting to insist.
You watch them and enjoy them as and when you feel like it. You should all do what I do and have them on in the background while you're doing other things. The moaners need to stop taking things too seriously. Enjoy the channels when your favourite girls are on and don't watch them when they're not.
Not exactly rocket science is it? 
Who is this 'you' that enjoys these channels? It's not about simply switching off if we don't enjoy them, it's about wanting to be treated as adults and not being held responsible for the neglect of all the parents in the country.
(23-01-2012 14:57 )StanTheMan Wrote: [ -> ] (22-01-2012 15:27 )Regenerated Wrote: [ -> ]The channels are what they are, they're not all bad as certain people keep wanting to insist.
You watch them and enjoy them as and when you feel like it. You should all do what I do and have them on in the background while you're doing other things. The moaners need to stop taking things too seriously. Enjoy the channels when your favourite girls are on and don't watch them when they're not.
Not exactly rocket science is it?
Who is this 'you' that enjoys these channels? It's not about simply switching off if we don't enjoy them, it's about wanting to be treated as adults and not being held responsible for the neglect of all the parents in the country.
"you" meaning people Stan.
It wasn't aimed at any one person, it's a general term.
I'm sorry, I'm really really sorry, but you do say some strange things at times. It seems like the easiest thing in the world to me to stop doing something if you don't like it. Maybe thats just me then.
Turning something off that you don't enjoy, or not even watching it in the first place when you clearly don't enjoy it, seems an easy solution to your "problems".
(23-01-2012 03:31 )eccles Wrote: [ -> ]But its not the same.
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But back to sex. We can probably all find porn. But a computer screen just isnt the same as a big TV screen. Not yet. Jerky video on demand isnt the same as a smooth sharp TV channel. Recorded 5 minute clips with guaranteed endings arent the same as an all night TV feed, or the sheer joy when an innocent cutie suddenly gives a nice surprise. Internet sites are largely teaser clips just trying to sell subscriptions or DVDs. Find a clip you like and chances are it will be on a page with content you find yuckky like incest, scat, "school girls", transexuals, gay, grannies or whatever it is you happen to dislike, and if you are really unlucky the next clip will auto start. A good few sites host viruses so you might lose your credit card details or inadvertantly act as a proxy spambot and get on an FBI list. And theres about a 50% chance that the video you click on simply takes you to a page full of liks to other sites or says file not found.
I agree a great deal with this. I do think there is something a bit unique about the medium as we have it so far. Something about a public live performance on telly free to air to whoever wants to watch. And here we are on a forum 'reviewing' those performers and shows. Yet mixed nicely with the semi privacy of the phone conversations.
Something about the internet always seems a bit more private interest or niche; yes cams can be for dozens or hundreds to watch, but that doesn't quite translate the same and there isn't often the same sense of occasion. Maybe not quite there, I'm struggling to pin down what I'm getting at.
(23-01-2012 17:32 )Roquentin Wrote: [ -> ] (23-01-2012 03:31 )eccles Wrote: [ -> ]But its not the same.
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But back to sex. We can probably all find porn. But a computer screen just isnt the same as a big TV screen. Not yet. Jerky video on demand isnt the same as a smooth sharp TV channel. Recorded 5 minute clips with guaranteed endings arent the same as an all night TV feed, or the sheer joy when an innocent cutie suddenly gives a nice surprise. Internet sites are largely teaser clips just trying to sell subscriptions or DVDs. Find a clip you like and chances are it will be on a page with content you find yuckky like incest, scat, "school girls", transexuals, gay, grannies or whatever it is you happen to dislike, and if you are really unlucky the next clip will auto start. A good few sites host viruses so you might lose your credit card details or inadvertantly act as a proxy spambot and get on an FBI list. And theres about a 50% chance that the video you click on simply takes you to a page full of liks to other sites or says file not found.
I agree a great deal with this. I do think there is something a bit unique about the medium as we have it so far. Something about a public live performance on telly free to air to whoever wants to watch. And here we are on a forum 'reviewing' those performers and shows. Yet mixed nicely with the semi privacy of the phone conversations.
Something about the internet always seems a bit more private interest or niche; yes cams can be for dozens or hundreds to watch, but that doesn't quite translate the same and there isn't often the same sense of occasion. Maybe not quite there, I'm struggling to pin down what I'm getting at.
I think I know what you mean Roquentin. For want of a better term, would "feeling a part of it" be on the right lines of what you're getting at? I think its a decent point and I've made it before in other, similar threads like this.
(23-01-2012 17:22 )Regenerated Wrote: [ -> ]Turning something off that you don't enjoy, or not even watching it in the first place when you clearly don't enjoy it, seems an easy solution to your "problems".
Okay, so let me ask you a simple and direct question, for which I would appreciate a simple and direct answer.
Do you not care
at all that there is a group of people out there dictating what you, as an adult, can and cannot see on an adult television channel well after the watershed?
Yes! you're right Regenerated thanks, the participation of the viewers through calls etc. is a big part of it, though to some extent that is also on internet.
Also I recall something Addison argued (in the middle of a string of comments to and fro, I'm not trying to reopen particularly), about how the provision of softer content elsewhere is more limited these days. Yes through lads mags (including website vids etc) and page 3, but they aren't interactive either, nor live. It is almost as if the channels have brought striptease out of private mens clubs and onto the telly, and actually better than striptease due to the phonesex, if it is done well.
None of this is on the theme of restricted content, which I share the concerns about (Stan above etc. though I still enjoy what content there is), but it is good to think about what it is about the medium that we like (not just the level of content). Think that just about makes me on topic!
(23-01-2012 17:54 )StanTheMan Wrote: [ -> ] (23-01-2012 17:22 )Regenerated Wrote: [ -> ]Turning something off that you don't enjoy, or not even watching it in the first place when you clearly don't enjoy it, seems an easy solution to your "problems".
Okay, so let me ask you a simple and direct question, for which I would appreciate a simple and direct answer.
Do you not care at all that there is a group of people out there dictating to you and telling you what you can and cannot see?
No I don't care that there's a group of people telling me what I can and can't see.
You know why? Because I don't listen to them.
Its a shame that people complained to ofcom in the 1st place. No one should take tv to seriously and as a result complaining about what others choose to view is bad form. Do the same people complain about the fact that regular tv has at times strong sexual content as part of the plot. Yet we know in advance what adult tv is about so the complaints should be ignored. Or relax the rules a bit so the people making the shows don't get hammered with fines just because some people who should not be watching to start with don't like it. We can always stop watching but there is little point to that as you end up with nothing as opposed to a tame version of what once was.
(23-01-2012 17:56 )Regenerated Wrote: [ -> ]No I don't care that there's a group of people telling me what I can and can't see.
You know why? Because I don't listen to them.
Ahh my dear Regenerated (if you allow me a friendly jump to another conversation
gosh you are in the middle of two!) but you must admit if they ever did restrict the content you still enjoy now, that would be frustrating?
(23-01-2012 18:05 )Roquentin Wrote: [ -> ]Ahh my dear Regenerated (if you allow me a friendly jump to another conversation, gosh you are in the middle of two!) but you must admit if they ever did restrict the content you still enjoy now, that would be frustrating?
Not frustrating at all my dear Roquentin
As Seth said earlier I won't be losing any sleep over it. They are what they are. I'll be disapointed maybe for an hour or two, but I'm sure I'd find other things to occupy my time.
I do enjoy the channels. But what Ofcom say can and can't happen isn't the end of the world to me, unlike others.