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the slightly argumentative part of this 'discussion' has been moved here: http://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=68490

admittedly it was a little trollish but we were all polite and put out points across (some a little more vigorously, but still respectful of the rules imo).
its to be expected when differing points of view are expressed. i wasnt flame baiting and reading his last reply neither was he...

(29-07-2016 10:37 )euleri Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-07-2016 08:27 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]snip

Well if you're going to judge Evelyn based on her 1st few shows then she's always going to lose those battles. She got that much attention because she was the hottest girl on the dayshows & nobody expected her to give in to the perve cam allure. But those are factors that she's never gonna be able to exploit again (this also applies to other girls on the channels - there's always gonna be a loss of interest after the inital WOW boom, no matter how hot the girl is). Of course, she COULD get that interest back for a while, if she indeed does start doing Hardcore shows. But as a long time fan you should know that's never gonna happen with this girl.

And I agree, last night's aftershow was a step down from her shows before her holiday. But like I said, she cuts these shows short for a reason now. Those 14+ hour shifts were starting to take a toll on her, for more details you can always call & ask her yourself.

I know very little about network xhr requests & such, so I can't confirm if you are bullshitting or not. And I don't have access to the girls perve-profile control panel. Yet your claims of her leaving after 20 minutes because her room was empty definitely isn't true (I was one of the guys watching & judging by the "goodbye's", there were at least 2-3 other viewers around).

And I'm not gonna argue with you about her dayshow performance's (it comes down to different tastes). But it's funny a user as experienced as you think a girl like Evelyn does nothing more than "mime a statue" on these shows. It's not like these girls have to talk to & please their callers & their cam viewers (at the same time!). And every one of these callers have different needs & tastes. Some of them might also be moody, rude or with "special" fetishes etc. Now imagine yourself in a similar situation, pleasing & teasing these costumers for 14+ hours... And doing all that with the limits that are set upon babeshows. I know I couldn't do it.

And I'm not arguing with you about nottooold case, Evelyn's a big girl & she can handle herself.

the way i look at it is, if she wants the money she will earn it. but because the novelty has worn off,(i also said it would) it will be much harder to do the job without stepping up her content dramatically.

she had 20+ guys an hour when she started. that fell shift by shift just before her break i think there was 5-8 guys total on her last 3 hour shift. and most of them didnt stay long.
that means her monthly income would have dropped to a fraction of her initial 17k and probably down to less than 1.7k by her break, despite in her mind doing much stronger shows.

so yeah i have good reason to think the recent shows are about the money.

as for miming a mime. you have seen her bang tease me tv clips havent you.
so il say no more on that
other than, thats the evelyn i wanted to see on her cam show. but with boobs and flashing.
if that evelyn did a cam show....

We were just two blokes with different points of view expressing themselves - actually, I rather enjoyed it! Hope you did too, HEX!T. We still feel the same way, I think, so let's do it all over again sometime - but not for a little while!! (And once again ,"let's" is a request not an instruction!)

(29-07-2016 17:23 )DuggyG2 Wrote: [ -> ]People not so keen on Evelyn as much as they used to

it wouldnt take a whole lot to rekindle it...
clare managed it with her cam after gaining a rep as a scammer.
but shes managed to claw back a viewer base for her cam shows and fair play to her for doing it.

again i refer you to evelyns teaseme tv shows. if she turns up with that evelyns mindset, but carrys through with her tease.
im pretty much sure evelyn can turn the interest in her cam show around if she wanted to

(29-07-2016 15:25 )Bandwagon Wrote: [ -> ]Does Evelyn take requests?
I just I really want to see her love slot.

Thanks.

could have said it better myself .

(29-07-2016 21:46 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]the way i look at it is, if she wants the money she will earn it. but because the novelty has worn off,(i also said it would) it will be much harder to do the job without stepping up her content dramatically.

she had 20+ guys an hour when she started. that fell shift by shift just before her break i think there was 5-8 guys total on her last 3 hour shift. and most of them didnt stay long.
that means her monthly income would have dropped to a fraction of her initial 17k and probably down to less than 1.7k by her break, despite in her mind doing much stronger shows.

so yeah i have good reason to think the recent shows are about the money.

as for miming a mime. you have seen her bang tease me tv clips havent you.
so il say no more on that
other than, thats the evelyn i wanted to see on her cam show. but with boobs and flashing.
if that evelyn did a cam show....

But here's the question I am asking you - how realistic do you think it is that Evelyn's going to up her content levels to the degree which will restore her that popularity again?

I just can't see it happening, not even for double or triple the income you claim she was earning. And just to make it clear, it'll be one of the best days of my life if it actually did happen. But it seems such an impossibility at this moment that I'd feel foolish to even hope for it.

As to her cam room viewers, I'll again repeat it - I have no way to be certain if you are bullshitting or not with these numbers. Yet I'd still wager that her current perve-popularity is one of the best in st66 & that + the income she receives through her phone is enough to satisfy her need for £££.

Also, if she was indeed earning 1/10 of her initial perve income despite doing much stronger shows, don't you think what she is doing now is the most logical option she is taking? Let's remind ourselves that this is a very clever girls who is a master at teasing her audience. And the main reason for her initial perve-success was her being unobtainable in the more intimate aspects of the babeshow services for such a long time. That unobtainableness was, however, lost when she was doing her last shows before her holidays. And she was doing 14+ hour shifts with some of them being very explicit. Clearly she wasn't happy where this was going - she was earning too little & showing too much. Hence the current change.

Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if a guy with expectation-levels as high as yours envisioned seeing her borrowing a few of Fernanda's toys.

Finally, yes, I have seen her very early shows. They were very good. Now name me a babeshow channel where she'd be allowed to perform like that on a dayshow. And I personally liked her cam/perve shows just the way they were.

This debate continues to be very interesting - all the more because the opinions expressed require facts that none of us have!!! How many pervcam viewers did Evelyn have when she first did her shows, and how many would she have now if she restarted her longer planned shows? Let's be honest, we have no idea and our comments are based on pure guesswork.

We do know that her early viewing figures were rather record breaking, but these figures contained a lot of viewers hoping for pornography which never happened, so the numbers dropped. However the numbers remained quite high, certainly more than satisfactory. Evelyn told me that she was much happier with the reduced numbers, because it meant that she wasn't being repeatedly asked to do things she refused to do. Also, I believe that the original shows had so many viewers that the computer systems couldn't cope with the volumes.

On her return from holiday she has been reluctant to restart her longer planned shows, partly because the 14 hour day was ridiculously long, and she hasn't attempted to do so yet. All she has done is a few short shows, neither planned nor advertised, totally at the request of fans on the day.

We have no idea how many viewers she would get if she restarted longer planned shows with viewers aware of the show times in advance. We would be guessing, but my guess is that she could make a very reasonable living if she wished to do so.

I am sure some people have advice as to how she could increase the viewing figures eg by being more pornographic. But let's be honest, she isn't going to do pornography, she isn't going to be happy with continuous requests to do more, and she is going to be much happier doing her tease shows, which are quite "naughty", for an audience which wants just that. None of us know how many people that would be, but if she does restart, good luck to her.

(30-07-2016 13:04 )euleri Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-07-2016 21:46 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]snip

But here's the question I am asking you - how realistic do you think it is that Evelyn's going to up her content levels to the degree which will restore her that popularity again?

I just can't see it happening, not even for double or triple the income you claim she was earning. And just to make it clear, it'll be one of the best days of my life if it actually did happen. But it seems such an impossibility at this moment that I'd feel foolish to even hope for it.

As to her cam room viewers, I'll again repeat it - I have no way to be certain if you are bullshitting or not with these numbers. Yet I'd still wager that her current perve-popularity is one of the best in st66 & that + the income she receives through her phone is enough to satisfy her need for £££.

Also, if she was indeed earning 1/10 of her initial perve income despite doing much stronger shows, don't you think what she is doing now is the most logical option she is taking? Let's remind ourselves that this is a very clever girls who is a master at teasing her audience. And the main reason for her initial perve-success was her being unobtainable in the more intimate aspects of the babeshow services for such a long time. That unobtainableness was, however, lost when she was doing her last shows before her holidays. And she was doing 14+ hour shifts with some of them being very explicit. Clearly she wasn't happy where this was going - she was earning too little & showing too much. Hence the current change.

Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if a guy with expectation-levels as high as yours envisioned seeing her borrowing a few of Fernanda's toys.

Finally, yes, I have seen her very early shows. They were very good. Now name me a babeshow channel where she'd be allowed to perform like that on a dayshow. And I personally liked her cam/perve shows just the way they were.

restoring her to her former popularity? its entirely up to her what she wants to do.
she has a large potential audience, its up to her what she does to pull them in.

but she could start by, STOP! PUTTING THINGS OVER THE LENS OF THE CAM! .
but seriously.
it reduced the image quality so much it made it pointless for her and for us.
for her in that she had to get topless to earn money, but cant earn it as the guys left because they couldnt see the show.
the streams are low quality to start with so it doesnt take much to kill the image completely.
and being as a cam show is only worth the money if your viewer can see it. it sorta makes sense to give the best image quality you can.

i wasnt suggesting she return to tease me tv evelyn on tv , that would get s66 a fine off ofcom. but in comparison to todays evlyn on s66 to her back then. is is a veritable statue. thats not what i was getting at....
my point was she could up her game by returning to her tease me tv performance on her "cam" and if she wanted to follow through with her tease.

basically getting back to a less inhibited way of posing evelyn. posing with confidence, rather than constantly trying t avoid an unintentional spill or slip.

she could try "if it happens it happens!"

dont get this wrong she did a lot of things rite. she was getting naked, hand thong and hand bra. a little rubbing and topless. all good stuff. but it was the poor image quality of the stream that drove most of the guys off, at least judging by the chatbox's of the time and a couple of times watching.

lastly i dont have any expectation other than adult content on an adult website.
but
truthfully i wouldnt mind if she went full on fernanda. but as we all know each girl works her level, fernandas hardcore, evelyn, not so much .

^ Well I have a few suggestions as well. A mask, for example, so she would not be limited in her movements to hide her face. Also, sound, so she could use those hands elsewhere rather than on a keyboard. But at the moment I'm just glad she's willing to do even her 20 minute bonus shows.

And I wouldn't mind either that she would inject a little bit more energy in her cam teasing. Maybe now she will, when she's cut back on the length of her shows (more energy left to increase the quality of her shows, yknow).

I also really enjoy seeing her strip out of her TV outfits, especially when she's teased with it for several hours. Didn't have that when she was doing her after TV shows.

Can't really comment on the cam image quality issue. Doubt many girls dare to go near those stream settings in their perve accounts.

When a "good girl" goes bad on the pervecams there will always be a spike of punter interest.
When a "good girl" of Evelyn's quality does it and teases with the mastery she has, you had the phenomenon of Jan/Feb/March this year.
However, as she soon realised, it is a classic case of the law of diminishing returns - you have to show more and be more dirty, not only to maintain interest but just to slow the inevitable slide in viewing figures. The simple fact is, familiarity breeds boredom. How many of us have seen a really great porn video or something and thought "wow - I'll never tire of this!"? But you do. And quite quickly.
Evelyn tried to hold up her flagging perve figures by going topless but as Hexit pointed out, the nylons over the lens totally negated it for a lot of us.

She clearly isn't prepared to go any further, hence the lack of camshows now. She knows she could get another bumper audience for a month or 2 if she went full on pussy, but even that would not last, and would obey the law and decay down to fairly good but not spectacular figures. I guess she doesn't want to compromise her dignity for a short-lived buck. Once you crossed that bridge there ain't no going back, it has gone and it is out there for ever.

Euleri - the mask idea I have seen on CB. Personally it gives me the creeps and I can't watch it. Agree on the rest of what you say there though.