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its not the cams mate its the settings they choose to run there system at.
generally there sporting less than 480p 18fps @500kbps.

SUX BaWllZ!!!.

^ so why do they choose to run inadequate settings?

(26-03-2016 18:13 )euleri Wrote: [ -> ]<snip>

But after saying all that, I think she could get there, if people are patient. She has, IMO, exceeded everyone's expectations with where she is right now. Doubt anyone, even Evelyn herself can accurately predict what she will be doing a few weeks/months from now. Could be she will get even more comfortable on cam. Maybe, yes, even help herself out with a toy. But I seriously doubt she will get there with people yelling "ripoff" or "waste of money" at her. Sure you can complain, nobody can deny this right to you. But a better strategy, for me, seems to be to simply not spend your money at her until you are certain you'll get the minimum you want in return. And there are several ways of doing this, asking the guys who watch her now seems to be the most obvious choice.

re. cost - am not sure what you are trying to say with this. There are other models around who do much less with the same price range. And its eventually all up to the studio to decide how to rake profits from these girls. If they really knew a way to get ~2000 viewers on Evelyn's perve stream, I think they would have done it. Doubt the girl herself would have anything against it. But nothing's easy in IRL. Her streams are unstable even with 20-30 viewers, imagine that number growing to 2000...

already made that choice mate. after her 3rd show

i did some research mate, it was 1 of the things i did before spending money on becky roberts, clare and gemma hiles.
i asked plenty of guys, got to see a few clips and was then devastated (pissed off is probably more appropriate) to find none of the girls living up to there reps, of putting on a good show.

i now know that all 3 tamed down there shows a few months before i started watching, but no 1 mentioned that fact... it was aw! yeah! seen her do this and this and this.

turns out the girls had done this and that but no more because of guys sharing on tubesites.
me, im thinking i only wanted to watch em, because of what i had seen on the tubesites.

literally i was like a virgin standing in a brothel clutching a hand full of 2-4-1 coupons.
i couldnt wait to spend some money...

what did i get?...

replies like, you cant afford me...
what not even for a 1500 credit tip?.
not even if you sold your house.
or
yeah baby il flash i wanna 5er tip of every 1 in the room.
well her you go...
oi! mikey, you havent tipped....
oi you, you havent tipped either...
5 credits later
oi! mikey, you havent tipped yet.
guys mikey hasent tipped, im not showing till he leaves or he tips...
10 credits later.
mikey leaves to boo's and hisses.
poor mikey...

now im not saying it wasnt a good show.
but the way she mined for the tip that put me off.
i ended up spending £15 waiting for some 1 to be shamed into leaving...
im sorry he paid his entry fee, same as me. if he doesnt wanna tip thats his business. thats what a group show is ...
if you go private thats a different matter, charge what you want as long as its not a pisstake like the following.

do you use toys?
yes baby!.
how much?
100 up front?
erm! ok!...
yeah baby what do ya think... (girl bends over shows her thonged ass, shakes it, couple of minutes of body rubbing, takes 1 then 2 boobs out, spins, saunters back to the chair. sits down and pulls out a dildo....
yeah! things are getting interesting....
yeah baby, you suck it.... suck!.... wtf!...
click your private session has now ended. the girl will be back online shortly...
i went back to the chat and she was there putting her bra back on saying how much i liked her show... WTF!... her excuse was i should have tipped....
WHAT THE FUCK! what was the £100 for?...

as you can see not the best start to my camming experience with s66. (although the last 1 was a shared cam with MFC, and i used mfc for the chat)
if it hadnt of been for summer green i would have given up on them entirely.
but she knew what she was worth and performed accordingly. absolutely top draw and a damn shame shes gone.


lastly!, yeah i could imagine. but its basically down to the studio and girls to make that happen.
if they want to be a premium cam service you have to act like 1. which means better stream quality. ie 720p 1mbps minimum.
good sound and higher fps. seriously theres kids on twitch that stream better quality to 1000's of viewers with no issue... theres no good reason why any of the channels cant do the same and do it cost effectively.

lol. i think i just went nutz with the emogies

(26-03-2016 20:38 )Rake Wrote: [ -> ]^ so why do they choose to run inadequate settings?

probably to discourage guys recording...
if so it failed.

lori buckby did the same with her pervcam.
she reduced the quality after her shows appeared on the tubesites. this had a knock on of driving off paying customers.

lori gets less money, so showed even less.
more customers left.
but the guys recording are still there.

ended up with constant hitching and disconnections and no customers yet there were still guys recording.

s66 look to be doing the same. more than likely with the same result.

im thinking theres gotta be a better way...

I don't really know what to say to that. I guess every girl is different. Have never seen Evelyn asking for a tip & I am very grateful for that, since it is one of the biggest turnoffs for me. And I certainly hope she won't become like the example girls you brought out in the future either, I really enjoy what she is doing atm.

And I guess asking for "advice" can't be foolproof. But it's still better than going on the girls stream and starting slandering, especially in group sessions. Might be some are actually enjoying the show.

And I still don't see an argument for the tube sites. There are alternative, more private sharing methods available that won't ruin the girls shows.

there is no argument for tubesites mate.
im saying its there fallback position when they run out of other excuses.

Thanks HEX!T for the details you supplied of your experiences on the cams. Clearly you were disappointed because you were led to believe you would get pornography for your money, and then didn't get it. We can all understand that. We all also share your criticism of the "nothing without a tip" attitude some girls have, and the criticism of the poor quality and unreliability of the cam stream.

However, when it comes to Evelyn and some other girls, we have to accept what is on offer. They don't all offer pornography, and some never will. So we choose to watch, or choose not to watch. It's up to us. Some girls do, and some girls don't. They are free to decide what they will do, and we are free to decide whether to watch them.

We wouldn't buy a tiny Fiat diesel car, and then complain bitterly that it wasn't a Ferrari, would we? So, if we choose to watch a "girl who doesn't" then we can't complain, can we? It's our freedom to choose to watch, and yours to not watch. I'm never going to complain that you choose to not watch!!!!!

The worst thing about the tip-demanders is that they never deliver on what they have insinuated will be shown as a result of the tip. I log off any pervecam where they ask for tips.

Quite right too, Rake. The worst offender, a blonde lady, if asked to flash, will say "yes for a tip". On getting a tip, she derides it, and says "a flash is 500 credits". One tipper even said "sorry"!!!!! This attitude lets her down, and to an extent, other girls too. Much better if they don't ask, frankly.