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(12-03-2016 10:01 )Rake Wrote: [ -> ]snip

Errr...who precisley has he grassed up?

On ph he knows

(12-03-2016 10:50 )amy1 Wrote: [ -> ]Shes not gonna take things further until the current level of sauciness stops producing the money they have been getting, she knows this, the studio knows this.

The idea that someone uploads the perve shows,
I've been all over that website and there aint nary a sight of evelyn's perve shows, if someone wants to prove otherwise feel free to link me to them.

i have seen 1 upload so far on 1 forum not PH. the guy that uploaded it lost access to his upload account within a day, so some 1 is keeping an eye out.

i knew evelyn would start strong and i had a bad feeling after show 2 that it was only gonna be a matter of a few shows before her room was empty and the excuses start.
im sorry but s66 have known about PH for long enough as do the girls.
so using it as an excuse after you know of it and decided to go ahead anyway doesnt cut it as a reason for poor shows.

heres an alternative view, when she had 20 guys in her room the 2-3 recorders weren't an overriding issue. her shows were tame and didnt progress fast enough to the levels needed to sustain repeat customers. so guys decided not to bother coming back after there 1st or 2nd visit.
straight up truth of it is they wanted tits ass and pussy for there money and didnt get it so left. (i know some wont like that statement, but thats the reality)

now shes down to 2-3 paying guys an hour and 2-3 recorders, they seem much more of an issue because the guys recording are now half her audience.
thus the reference to porn hub.

heres a simple fact for s66 to get there heads around.
guys get bored 1s they have seen pussy. but its better they go away happy and all things being equal, if they get a good show, there more likely to come back and pay again.
on the back of that coin
girls putting on tame a show doesn't encourage repeat custom, it breeds contempt.
instead of guys going away happy they start looking for ways to watch for free.
i know this for a fact because i get pm's of random joes who have turned up asking for the stream info, every time evelyn put on a show.

seriously, for the last 5 weeks i have gotten pm's after every show.
initially i got about 4-5 per, today i was down to 1.

the general consensus of these guys when i chat to em, is they wanna watch.
but are now looking for free viewing because they didnt get to see anything when they were paying. they still want the product but dont think its price represents its value.
so s66 have to either drop the price* or evelyn has to step up and earn her £2.50+pm by putting on shows guys wanna see and as a consequence fill up her room with paying customers.

*has its own pitfalls

I see we have a little troll that doesn't understand/care about anything besides unleashing the tiddler in his pants and filling his tissue with his micrograms of manjuice.

Spoken in recent days to both Abbey and Evelyn. Abbey regularly applies to delete videos of cam shows (at home & studio based) from PH. There are quite a few of Evelyn too. Not always spelt Evelyn, although a few are that easy to find. Both laughed at the idea put forward in here with reliance on the lip reading skills of the great unwashed of how much these girls are earning.

Why would you home record a cam show? Why would you upload a cam show? Why do you think the girls hate videos of their shows being plastered all over the internet? Do you think you're doing advertising for the girls by posting the videos on PH?

Abbey, I know has an HD webcam at home, but if fuckwits carry on posting her camshows, she isn't going to change her settings from meh to woohoo! Even on pervcam the other day she wasn't going to show her jewels with only 1 guy in there paying in case I (the only guy there) was recording, and I hope she knows I wouldn't record, and definitely wouldn't be a fuckwit and post it..

It's not just a matter of money, or making money off gullible folks by teasing and not delivering her innermost 'thoughts'. Some aren't too keen on having that much of them out there in public domain. Should any change career, it's going to be a bit harder leaving this bit of history if a basic web search throws up videos of their lady bits on show.

troll? hahaha... been called worse... not actually troling mate. its called reality of making money on cams on an adults only webcam service.
if you dont provide the content your customers want they go elsewhere. regardless of who the girl is. thats just a fact.


like i said mate i have pm's of guys wanting free access to the streams. if i was a troll your implying. i wouldnt turn them away with the same reply's?... i dont have or give out that info nor do i upload to ph.

while s66 have tightened there security they havent stopped guys recording. they just need to be logged in and paying.
and there is literally nothing they can do about that. coz if they cant record the streams with rmc they will use bandicam to record the screen instead.
some of them will upload to pH, its shit but none of my business. and thats for s66 and the girls to handle.
with my point being, for the girls to reduce the content levels because of guys recording, is self defeating because there customers end up leaving, the girls get way less money. with the only people left are the 1s recording and the odd guy who's unaware that the girls never gonna show regardless of the money on offer. who of course leave frustrated calling the girls a rip-off.

im not trolling when i say, the girls provide a service we want to use. we pay our money and we expect to get an adult cam show for the sometimes overly exorbitant asking price. if shes good she gets a tip, if not we go elsewhere. i mean why else do you go to an adult only cam site?. for the sparkling conversation?...

so no mate not trolling, just putting a point of view across

(12-03-2016 10:56 )sowhat Wrote: [ -> ]How is it going to affect the shows if people record them she doesn't do them for free you have to pay to watch she is only going to do what she has 2 to get paid so I blame the fan boys for the piss pore shows, all the porn you watch is stolen (unless you bought it?) she is not going to stop because money is like drug,

She doesn't do these shows for publicity either. Is it really that difficult to understand that these shows are meant to be PRIVATE? You think the warning logo on the bottom of that screen is there for ruining the good view? Maybe a girl like her, who is super secretive about her private life, doesn't want her more explicit footage flooding the porn tubes/forums. And newsflash - it is her right to choose what she does & doesn't show on cam. If people go against the rules she/the studio have set up then Evelyn has has every right to warn the costumers about the consequences & stop the shows completely if they don't listen. And her fanboys, like me, have every right to be super pissed off about the uploaders & do everything possible to prevent their stupidity from spreading.

^HEX!T

Re. her uploads - there have been many uploads & they really haven't been that difficult to find. Luckily, however, st66 (probably bc of pressure from some girls) have managed to remove most of them quickly by now.

But that's that. What I want to ask you is if any of your assumptions that you make so frequently come from actual concrete proof? I respect you & I know you know some stuff other users don't. But this is getting silly...

For example, you keep talking about the people in Evelyn's room. How the hell do you know how many users are watching her at any moment? To my knowledge the only people privileged to information are the girls themselves & maybe the producers at st66 or the IT guys at Firestorm. Same goes for the recorders - I'd very much like to know how you can estimate the number that are recording her so accurately.

(12-03-2016 19:05 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]im sorry but s66 have known about PH for long enough as do the girls.
so using it as an excuse after you know of it and decided to go ahead anyway doesnt cut it as a reason for poor shows.

So what, girls can't be protective about their privacy? Especially the girl in question, who is famous for being on the babeshows for 6+ years without leaking any sensitive information about her personal life.

As I said above, every girl has their limits. I wasn't here when the likes of Clare Richards or Rachel Louise stopped performing but I'm sure you were. And I'm guessin people didn't take the backlash well. Now you take into account Evelyn's privacy "policy", her popularity & the rate of which her perve shows are published. IMO you get at a pretty good excuse for her to stop doing her shows (or reduce them in quality), do you not?

(12-03-2016 19:05 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]heres a simple fact for s66 to get there heads around.
guys get bored 1s they have seen pussy. but its better they go away happy and all things being equal, if they get a good show, there more likely to come back and pay again.
on the back of that coin
girls putting on tame a show doesn't encourage repeat custom, it breeds contempt.
instead of guys going away happy they start looking for ways to watch for free.
i know this for a fact because i get pm's of random joes who have turned up asking for the stream info, every time evelyn put on a show.

How about you consider this: girls are willing to show more once they know their audience is more trustworthy.

A scenario: Evelyn keeps doing her current shows, without her footage being uploaded. She keeps up the trend (!!!) of getting more & more comfortable on the cam each session, doing something different every time. The "accidents" become more frequent & she'll become more open-minded with the more demanding costumer base, to keep her shows "attractive" & her income steady. Might even go full naked showing all & then HEX!T will finally concede she's reached his high standards.

And re. your PM's - you are again making assumptions based on things that cannot be proved. You could just as well be making up all those PM's/random joes & their opinions - no one would be able to prove you otherwise. Sorry, but I at least can't take this part of your response seriously.

like i said guy, what people upload is none of my business. im not the 1 supplying them with stream codes. i have no control over what they can and cant view. so not my problem.

and no i didnt say the girls shouldnt be proactive in there content control. if evelyn wants to maintain her privacy she just avoids social media. its not that hard to do.

how do i know the things i know? because i have been around here a long time and have made met many good members. some of which talk about experiences on the cams that isnt published in the forum. you know i chat to people because you turned up in my inbox about 4 weeks ago, and i was quite happy to chat to you.

as for trustworthy. sorry mate trust doesnt come into it. im not there for a relationship im there to spend my money in return for a cam show.
dont get me wrong i do understand the need for trust on a humanist level. but its not actually a requirement for a good cam show.

sorry mate i dont see the point your making... im quite happy with my standards. there pretty simple. 18 rated content on a 18 rated site.
i ask for nothing more or less than advertised.

as for the pm's sorry guy, i cant post them in the public forum or i would. site rules prevent it...
i sent you a pm... look at the id. zero posts, zero rep. but his question is pretty standard.
if you want more i can send em.
the only difference between this 1 and a lot of others is he was straight to the point, he didnt build up to it with a few hey mate pm's first. which i actually admired.

so no im not pulling this out my ass.

If you've ever paid or will want to pay for Evelyn's show again, this should be your business. You think I'm ranting here because I like to write ~1000 word replies to someone over the internet? I like to get quality shows for my money & the best way to do that is to get rid of the uploaders.

So what did you try to say with that "st66/girls know about PH" statement?

Yeah I've talked to you & as I say, I know you have more knowledge than most users here. That doesn't still make you immune to chatting rubbish. I've read your posts carefully since you can write some really interesting posts. But you can also make ridiculous assumptions that are as watertight as a sponge. And I'm not buying it this time.

trust - How is trust not a requirement for a good camshow? If the model knows she can go naked on screen without the footage being published on tubes next day, why wouldn't she do it, especially if the money is there from the more demanding folk? Because of your evil-little-princesses-that-like-to-suck-every-penny-out-of-their-costumers-without-showing-anything theory? Sorry but that's laughable.

And I'm not judging your standards HEX!T, I'm judging your assumptions & arguments you make with them.

mate im not sure where all this hostility is coming from. your a customer too... lol
you dont have the information i have, so your assuming im assuming!?.

it seems you have completely missed the point of any of what ive said to the point your thinking im saying stuff im not.
eveil little princess? erm no. mate. just stop...

Feeling guilty, kiddo? Actually I wasn't thinking of u as that.. but if you feel the cap fits.... well.. not stopping you..

(12-03-2016 19:05 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]troll? hahaha... been called worse... not actually troling mate. its called reality of making money on cams on an adults only webcam service.
if you dont provide the content your customers want they go elsewhere. regardless of who the girl is. thats just a fact.


like i said mate i have pm's of guys wanting free access to the streams. if i was a troll your implying. i wouldnt turn them away with the same reply's?... i dont have or give out that info nor do i upload to ph.

while s66 have tightened there security they havent stopped guys recording. they just need to be logged in and paying.
and there is literally nothing they can do about that. coz if they cant record the streams with rmc they will use bandicam to record the screen instead.
some of them will upload to pH, its shit but none of my business. and thats for s66 and the girls to handle.
with my point being, for the girls to reduce the content levels because of guys recording, is self defeating because there customers end up leaving, the girls get way less money. with the only people left are the 1s recording and the odd guy who's unaware that the girls never gonna show regardless of the money on offer. who of course leave frustrated calling the girls a rip-off.

im not trolling when i say, the girls provide a service we want to use. we pay our money and we expect to get an adult cam show for the sometimes overly exorbitant asking price. if shes good she gets a tip, if not we go elsewhere. i mean why else do you go to an adult only cam site?. for the sparkling conversation?...

so no mate not trolling, just putting a point of view across

(13-03-2016 00:47 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]mate im not sure where all this hostility is coming from. your a customer too... lol
you dont have the information i have, so your assuming im assuming!?.

it seems you have completely missed the point of any of what ive said to the point your thinking im saying stuff im not.
eveil little princess? erm no. mate. just stop...

Well, if I did seem hostile then I apologize, it was not my intent.

But some of the stuff you write just doesn't make sense to me - you counting the costumers/recorders, your repeat costumer theory, your Evelyn PH reference theory, the consensus of the random joe's... It all seems like an utopia which you have drawn out from your own assumptions & knowledge that nobody can proofcheck.