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Never saw the penalty given but know it was never a handball or foul. Boo shananigans I say.
Sending off was just though
(06-12-2014 17:30 )Charlemagne Wrote: [ -> ]Wegner must have got the hair drier out at half time because Arsenal have pulled two goals back in the second half.

20 mins to go. Stoke 3 - Arsenal 2

Was it on blow dry or hot?
Will westham finish above arsenal at Christmas? Do westham fans dare to dream?
And they think there in problems try being a Spurs fan like myself Bounce

Nice to see s rationale civilised debate between supporters.
Totally disrespectful to Stoke calling them a pub team. I think the word delusions of grandeur come to mind
It amazes me how deluded some Arsenal fans r. I read at the beginning of the season both Merson and Nicholas tipping them for the title, then every week Merson religiously tips them to win.... He is getting paid for his opinions too.... that is a joke!!!

Looking in from the outside, how many years have Arsenal needed a decent centre back and strong midfielder? I think some fans at least had hope a few years ago when Arsenal were playing the best football in the league style wise. But now i think they do not even have that.

Arsene Wenger is a great manager, but unfortunately he has been too secure at the club, this has meant he disregards everything everyone says, even if there is some truth in it. (surely steve bould is not happy with the defence and says so)
His stubbornness has led Arsenal to be perennial chasers of 4th. If they miss out on 4th this year, it might offer the club a chance to cut some dead wood and rebuild properly.... probably with a new manager.
As a Stoke fan I love that Wenger is still in charge.. carry on Big Grin
Most clubs in the world would snap Wenger up... I'd take Wenger right now and give you Brendan Rodgers in return, how would that be for you Arsenal fans?
All day long I would. But he is a miserable fucker!!!!
It would be interesting if that were to happen. It would resolve which team supporters has the biggest delusions of grandeur. Both fans seem to have a divine right to be premier league champions (or at least contenders) mentality because their clubs have such a big history. Newcastle to be fair would not be to far behind in those stakes.
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