Well bring back ITC that's all I have to say, but I don't think this is going to happen, ITC had it right, after the 9pm watershed, adult material could be viewed over the age of 18. So to me there was no problem at all
If Adults chose to watch adult content, then after 9pm they could do so, so what's the problem?
Unfortunately as far as I can make out Labour decided to change this, hence creating Ofcom and the gradual slide downwards started. To me it seems like the 9pm watershed doesn't mean anything anymore to Ofcom
So why bother having it? It seems that Ofcom want to try and police us all, and however hard they try they will never fully succeed!! David Cameron has a lot to answer for coming to power nearly 2 yrs ago, and he hasn't even bothered to tackle Ofcom
I've said this before, we all live in a so called Demorcracy, I should have the FREEDOM to choose what we should and shouldn't watch, and the fact Ofcom use Lame excuses about protecting Children incase they stumble on these channels is abosolutly Ridiculous!! It's down to the responsibility of the parents to govern in there own homes what there children should be watching
It's that simple. However it seems Ofcom are saying to all the parents in the UK that you're not responsible for what your children should be watching, so will do it for you
WHAT A F**KING INSULT to all the parents in the UK they're taking the piss.
I sincerely hope the Dutch Regulators will tell Ofcom to Piss of and leave Holland quickly.
(14-03-2012 13:07 )continental19 Wrote: [ -> ]Well bring back ITC that's all I have to say, but I don't think this is going to happen, ITC had it right, after the 9pm watershed, adult material could be viewed over the age of 18. So to me there was no problem at all If Adults chose to watch adult content, then after 9pm they could do so, so what's the problem?
Unfortunately as far as I can make out Labour decided to change this, hence creating Ofcom and the gradual slide downwards started. To me it seems like the 9pm watershed doesn't mean anything anymore to Ofcom So why bother having it? It seems that Ofcom want to try and police us all, and however hard they try they will never fully succeed!! David Cameron has a lot to answer for coming to power nearly 2 yrs ago, and he hasn't even bothered to tackle Ofcom
I've said this before, we all live in a so called Demorcracy, I should have the FREEDOM to choose what we should and shouldn't watch, and the fact Ofcom use Lame excuses about protecting Children incase they stumble on these channels is abosolutly Ridiculous!! It's down to the responsibility of the parents to govern in there own homes what there children should be watching It's that simple. However it seems Ofcom are saying to all the parents in the UK that you're not responsible for what your children should be watching, so will do it for you WHAT A F**KING INSULT to all the parents in the UK they're taking the piss.
I sincerely hope the Dutch Regulators will tell Ofcom to Piss of and leave Holland quickly.
Agree with every word you have written there, but I for one have resigned myself to what is surely the truth, that we are living in a Nanny State. Hateful as the thought is...Nanny does not believe we can make our own decisions concerning our own lives, so Nanny will do it for us....first make the babechannels wretchedly tame, then eradicate them altogether,that way the baybees and little darlings wont be subjected to "porn" late at night!
Welcome to The Facist UK. So much for the 'Liberal' input into our politics (fucking sell outs)...
I doubt if there is any actual complaint apart from whatever that 'research' was from the other non competing channel. I hope the Dutch regulator sticks to whatever operations they usually conduct for their own typical jurisdiction, and seek out whether any actual complaints were made, just how many were made and investigate each one to see if they are warranted. Basically do Ofcom's job but come to a much more balanced less frantic outcome. If they discover that no complaints were actually made they should treat Ofcom courteously but with faint disdain, as they explain that there is nothing needed to be done.
In the news article, Ofcom directing people to forward their complaints to the Dutch regulator was a bit sickening. Suggests there has been a torrent of complaints but we already know they usually only get less than a handful. Their maneuver is probably designed to get more, pathetic.
Well in my opinion something has to be done to this so called Regulator, let's face it they couldn't Regulate water in a bath
POWER TO THE PEOPLE comes to mind, whether we can do anything more I just don't no. We all no Eccles tried his very best do get everyone to sign a petition, however we all no we never got enough signatures to get it through to parliament.
There is a slim chance that the coalition government might do something, but I think that's a very slim chance of that happening, so I guess the best hope we have might be down to us
I guess like me like you all, I feel totally helpless powerless to stop this Draconian power hungry overpaid Beaurocratic so called government Regulator, Ofcom must be and has to be stopped
Does anyone know exactly what it is BS have supposedly done that goes against OFCUNTS rules?
I'm not sure about the accuracy of the Garuniad article either. Since when was Tease Me an "adult pay TV" channel? Moreover, if it was, who the fuck would complain about its content being "too explicit" when they'd bloody well paid to see adult entertainment?
Has anyone ever seen a BS presenter pretending to be "masturbating"?
And since when has the sight of a semi-naked bird chatting on a phone been classed as 'porn'? Don't mumsnet know that OFCOM have rules that ban pornography in TV advertising?
As ever, this whole thing is a pile of bullshit, no doubt blown out of all proportion by the lying fuckers at OFCOM.
One thing is for certain, there's far more intimate, lingering shots of full-on 'labial and anal detail' on Embarrassing Bodies than any babe channel. The context doesn't change the fact that these are 'naughty' human body parts that CAN and ARE seen by kids of all ages.
Perhaps we could complain to the Dutch TV regulator that OFCOM have implemented a regulatory regime based on blatant sexual discrimination against those that enjoy making, broadcasting and watching porn...?
It might also be prudent to point out to the Editor of the Guardian that OFCOM's rules are not based on factual harm and offence but, indeed, on the lack of such evidence - evidence that is REQUIRED BY LAW to impose draconian restrictions upon our Fundamental Right to Freedom of Expression. There is no evidence to support OFCOM's ban on R18 from pay TV channels. There's no pressing social need or necessity to fine TV chat channels out of existence for supposed flashes of outer labia or the sight of an arsehole crease. But, needless to say, this is what OFCOM believe the Comms Act allows them to do, despite the fact that the law definitely says nothing of the sort and, indeed, can be read in an entirely different way to allow adults the RIGHT to watch adult programming when most children are tucked-up in bed. Moreover, those parents that allow their children to have a TV in their bedrooms only have themselves to blame for anything their chlid watches after the watershed. None of us should have to suffer censorship because of the actions, or rather, inaction, of irresponsible parents.
I can still buy glue and aerosols to take into my home despite the fact lots of kids used to get hooked or killed themselves misusing these things. How many kids have died or are ever likely to die from watching a babe chat or porn channel? How come we adults can be trusted with knives, power tools and noxious chemicals capable of maiming or killing kids yet, for some bizarre reason, OFCOM can't or won't trust us with our completely harmless TVs?
Part of being a grown-up is being able to cope with supposed 'offence' in an adult manner. Clearly, OFCOM are incapable of telling mindless wankstains to "grow the fuck up!" Indeed, OFCOM have proven themselves to be a bunch of arse kissing childish wankers.
Hundreds of years of being brainwashed by those in power that sex and pornography is bad, and not something to be shared, or even talked about, is going to take along time to overcome. It’s why I can’t see anything really changing until the next generation take over in the echelons of power. Until then we still have the same people in charge who were indoctrinated to think that porn is something so bad that it must be banned, and we the people must be protected from it for our own well being.
How something so natural as sex, can be considered so bad by these people, is just beyond me, if anything this kind of attitude is far more dangerous to society than pornography itself.
How about this for an angle.
OFCOM are in fact embarrassing the British government (in the eyes of the free world)? They are/have overstepped the mark and are now a loose cannon that need seriously reigning in. If not it will become counter productive to the government popularity - and hence votes...
OFCOM are making the government (their 'new liberal' paymasters) look like total cunts when it comes to personal freedoms etc...
Thoughts?
S
(15-03-2012 02:17 )Matsui Wrote: [ -> ]Hundreds of years of being brainwashed by those in power that sex and pornography is bad, and not something to be shared, or even talked about, is going to take along time to overcome. It’s why I can’t see anything really changing until the next generation take over in the echelons of power. Until then we still have the same people in charge who were indoctrinated to think that porn is something so bad that it must be banned, and we the people must be protected from it for our own well being.
How something so natural as sex, can be considered so bad by these people, is just beyond me, if anything this kind of attitude is far more dangerous to society than pornography itself.
Overcoming the religiously inspired view that sex/porn is in some way bad or dangerous began in 1959 with the acquittal of Lady Chatterly's Lover on charges of obscenity.
It is now 2012 and 53 years have passed since that groundbreaking decision. We've had free access to porn via the internet for over 17 years. And in 2000 the High Court ruled that the BBFC were acting unlawfully by banning hardcore content from R18 titles. Indeed, the BBFC had/have been allowing explicit sex scenes in ordinary 18 rated titles for many years before that - e.g. Lover's Guide, Romance, Baise Moi etc.
So, only OFCOM believe they should prevent something the vast majority of the public already accept is part of everyday life.
And there is not one shred of viable evidence to suggest something so natural and fundamental to our very existence as sex is, could ever cause harm to persons of any age. Evolution simply would not and could not create any creature that could be harmed by the sight, sound or knowledge of its own means of reproduction. Indeed, society feels the need to teach 12 year-olds 'the facts of life' for their own protection and wellbeing.
Why OFCOM believe the over 12s need their brand of supposed protection boggles the mind. There may be a case that imposing censorship on young adults under the age of 18 may well contribute to the abnormally high rate of teen pregnancies in the UK as compared to more sexually open countries in Europe - but have OFCOM done any research to prove their case is valid or have they simply relied upon their own narrow-minded, bigotted beliefs? Censorship breeds ignorance and ignorance only ever breeds fear and intolerance. And of course it is that same fear and intolerance that OFCOM use to 'justify' their unjust censorial regime. Spreading or perpetuating fear and intolerance protects no one, least of all the young and vulnerable.
OFCOM's supposed reasoning is utterly unfounded and their tirade against 'filth on TV' relies solely on ridiculous religious moral grounds coupled with ignorance and prejudice resulting in pathetic feelings of supposed 'offence' in the minds of prudes and bigots. If sex were truly offensive then I guess none of us would be around to enjoy it or, as the case may be, complain about it.