ofcom have way too much time on their hands. laura bates, tiffany, fernanda and others provide better tv than daybreak with christine "im too tanned" bleakley and adrain "im crap at this" chiles. i would rather have my cornflakes while watching earlybird/pad than the daytime shite thats on the bbc, 4, itv 5 etc.
(27-11-2010 12:18 )bigguy01 Wrote: [ -> ]ofcom have way too much time on their hands. laura bates, tiffany, fernanda and others provide better tv than daybreak with christine "im too tanned" bleakley and adrain "im crap at this" chiles. i would rather have my cornflakes while watching earlybird/pad than the daytime shite thats on the bbc, 4, itv 5 etc.
they investigate complaints and there are many more complaints about the channels, than the crap daytime tv, so they spend more time looking at the channels.
(27-11-2010 02:03 )vostok 1 Wrote: [ -> ] (27-11-2010 01:03 )StanTheMan Wrote: [ -> ]The material Bang have put out has hurt nobody - and I include lollygate in that. And yes, these channel are free-to-view, but as has been mentioned countless fucking times - THEY CAN BE LOCKED OUT OF THE SYSTEM BY ANY PARENT CONCERNED ABOUT THE MATERIAL THEIR CHILDREN SEE.
As said over a year ago:
The Department of Culture Media and Sport states that “In order to encourage free movement of broadcasts, all broadcasting must comply with the European Directive, “Television Without Frontiers” or TVWF, incorporated into the "Audiovisual Media Services Directive" and Ofcoms Code.
Broadcasting matters covered by the Directive include sports rights, right of reply, advertising, sponsorship and protection of minors.” The key word there is MUST. All broadcasting MUST be compatible with the TVWF Directive.
Article 22 of TVWF:
1. Member States shall take appropriate measures to ensure that television broadcasts by broadcasters under their jurisdiction do not include any programmes which might seriously impair the physical, mental or moral development of minors, in particular programmes that involve pornography or gratuitous violence.
2. The measures provided for in paragraph 1 shall also extend to other programmes which are likely to impair the physical, mental or moral development of minors, except where it is ensured, by selecting the time of the broadcast (post watershed topless content, as they do) by any technical measure (the ability for parents to remove all 900 channels from the Sky Digital EPG and the ability to delete seleted channels from freeview, as they do) that minors in the area of transmission will not normally hear or see such broadcasts.
3. Furthermore, when such programmes are broadcast in unencoded/Un-encrypted form Member States shall ensure that they are preceded by an acoustic warning or are identified by the presence of a visual symbol throughout their duration.
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So, the way I see it by explicit instruction from the Department of Culture Media and Sport, the above, from the TVWF/AMSD Directives, must comply with the Ofcom Broadcast Code and current Broadcast Law.
It follows then that Ofcom cannot have applied the TVWF/AMSD rules correctly. This quite obviously goes against the stated objectives of TVWF/AMSD to create a single market and, affects those `fundamental public interests` such as Freedom of Expression with regard to TV broadcasting.
So if the Babe Channels were to continue to show a warning message (as has already been done with the PTBA advert), and show a small “18” certificate after 10pm then the broadcast would be compatible with TVWF/AMSD Directives as recognised by The Department of Culture Media and Sport.
So why couldn't Bang enter into a dialogue/challenge with Ofcom months ago, instead of saying "no comment"?
Well said! This is the most coherent and constructive analysis of the whole sorry fiasco to date. Bang have acted like stroppy cretins and left themselves wide open to Ofcom action. The simple actions you suggest above would have sidestepped Ofcom and called their bluff!!!
I had no idea that the early bird material was as "suggestive" as it apparently has been, as said above there is a time and place. Some wit and descretion is just common sense during the daytime broadcasts and Bang Media were lacking in this regard.
It doesnt matter that Ofcom are bastards. So what? We all know that already. The point is that Bang were stupid to continue defying them after being told several times not to.
Understand and accept that Bang Media are the gormless losers here. Its easy to have a go at Ofcom, but Bang need to take a long hard look inside themselves and realise that they are stupid and in the wrong.
I know lots of people on here hate Ofcom, but rules are rules. You might not like the rules but you have to comply with them.
It's no good saying the channels can be blocked on sky, it makes no difference. Ofcom said the content was not acceptable for the time of day that it was been shown at and bang didn't seem to take notice. The parental lock is put there by Sky they don't have to have it as far as know. If Bang had followed the rules then this wouldn't have happened. I sure we'd all love it to be a bit stronger and for Ofcom to get of the channels backs but face it, it's not going to happen.
(27-11-2010 08:08 )Rammyrascal Wrote: [ -> ]yes they are bastards but bang have no-one but themselves to blame as they broke ofcom's rules 60 times in 18 months so no wonder ofcom had enough. also ofcom havent had it in for bang since day one as bang have been goimg for around 5 years. dont just blame ofcom
yes all channels will be quiet but hopefully not for long
Forgive me here, but aren't those two viewpoints totally contradictory? In the first you say Bang had it coming to them, serves them right, etc, but then in the second paragraph you're practically encouraging the other channels to act in the same way once all this has quitened down.
Also, I'm staggered by that amount of support that's coming in for Ofcom on this one. Yes, there are rules, but it's like Merc said in a recent post, should Bang and all the others act like complete jobsworth, blindly obeying these rules, despite thinking they're wrong? In South Africa, it was once a 'rule' that black people didn't mix with white people. Did the black people who were brave enough to fight against this 'rule' deserve the killings and persecution they received?
I applaud Bang's behaviour, just like I applauded Babestar's. Just a pity there aren't more babeshow producers with the same gumption.
no what i mean is that ofcom will ease off the channels and let them be a lot more filthier than they are
(27-11-2010 15:58 )Rammyrascal Wrote: [ -> ]no what i mean is that ofcom will ease off the channels and let them be a lot more filthier than they are
Why do you think that? Ofcom have stated very strongly that breaches will not be tolerated. If anything they'll be watching even more closely.
(27-11-2010 15:58 )Rammyrascal Wrote: [ -> ]no what i mean is that ofcom will ease off the channels and let them be a lot more filthier than they are
No they won't they will just look at them even more than they already do.