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(18-05-2015 14:23 )Longtimecaller Wrote: [ -> ]Why don't you interview for a job? You seem to believe you know so much about what goes on.

Like a lot of 'men' on here. I believed this was a forum appreciating the girls but it's become a bitching forum. What's funny is, the girls are earning more then any one in here so everyone bitching here just looks pathetic, I bet the girls read the forums and laugh at the fact you all bitch. 90% of the men in this forum haven't ever called a girl but they're all still in the job for some reason. If you don't enjoy the channels anymore don't watch it anymore. Stop dwelling in how offcom used to be, why the girls put their tops back on after a call & why someone won't go naked. Girls have different levels they work at so respect that & the girls are told what to do on the channel a lot of the time by their producer, I've heard it when on a call so why always blame the girl.

I have no desire to fawn over the every word and move of every babe and treat this place like some sycophant fan zone.
Equally I have no desire to call up babes who whinge about lack of calls with a total disregard for two pretty fundamental things
1. Quality of visual stimulation.
2. Value for money.
With all due respect as a regular caller down the years I will take no lecturing from you or anyone else about the validity of contributions on here UNLESS they are offensive and overly personal. Criticism of performance in any job comes with the territory especially when in a customer serving environment.
I accept criticism of my professional performance with exemplary good grace.
Too many of the babes do not.
Instead they get ratty, moan about freeloaders and about forum posts in the hope that their legions of social media followers and forum fanboys will march pathetically to their defence.
Well I aint no fanboy and I give a brutally honest assessment good or bad WITHOUT EVER making offensive and hurtful remarks. As a viewer and as a caller I am entitled to criticise the performances, the production, the lack of ambition and paucity of visual stimulation.
If the day ever comes when my right to do that stops it will be a sad day for free speech and another excuse for the output to continue its sorry descent further into the nightshow doldrums.
Now if the babes really are laughing at the idea that they might be earning more than us mere plebs on the forum it would lead me to believe they may also be laughing at those who they might perceive to be sad enough to purchase from their wishlists and even become what I think are now known as 'paypigs'.
If I or indeed many of us on this forum were ever to set up a wishlist I can't imagine we would have cause to be eagerly awaiting the postman every morning in anticipation of the next sycophant fuelled freebie Rolleyes.
And as for babes earning their money well I have to say I find that very much open to debate. Some are happy to give the viewing and calling punters what they want.
Some are happy to do nothing more than sit on a desk or lie on a bed in the same limited number of positions and poses while waving their phone.
They then have the temerity to question the lack of calls.
This is laughable.
It's like me asking for a pay rise having been a lazy sod with no valid reason to be given such a rise.
At the very least the babes need to look convincing and enthusiastic about their work.
Now I will freely concede the babes are NOT exclusively to blame. The channels are becoming tamer and tamer by the night but with inconsistent rules as to which babes seem to be allowed to do what Wink.
We now have a situation where people on here are ringing up babes to make a request which is subsequently declined due to OFCOM. Yet the same request is made to another babe on the same channel network and is obliged.
I myself have even encountered a situation where I made the exact same request of the same babe twice in three nights.
The first time it was declined, the second they obliged..
There is no consistency which makes the OFCOM excuse very hard to either believe or accept.
And as Speedybert so eloquently pointed out babes are now declining to do things they have previously been all too happy to do and none of which break OFCOM rules if done correctly.
The set choices don't exactly help the babes either but that is another long story that I would blabber on about for page after page. Let's not go there. This riposte is long enough already Wink.
In conclusion I don't take back a single word of criticism I have ever made on here.
Not because I am arrogant enough to think I know it all - far from it.
But because by using my own eyes and spending much hard earned cash on calls I have meaningful experience of what these shows have offered and offer now.
It is this experience that generates nothing more than an honest assessment of how I perceive the state of the shows.
No prejudice, no bias, no bullshit.
Just honest opinion.
I think at the very least we are all entitled to that without being laughed at by babes or channels alike.
If they continue the way they are it will not be they who have the last laugh.
It will be OFCOM who laugh heartily at an at least in part self inflicted universal demise of the channels.
To a degree, Longtimecaller has a point. Sections of this place have started to resemble virtual two-bit bar-rooms, where down-at-heel babe show veterans meet every single solitary night to say almost exactly the same things about how good 'the old days' were, and to bitch about how crap the shows are today. It's blossomed (decayed?) into a whole Babeshow Forum culture of complaint. Therapy or nostalgia disease? You decide.
^exactly why I thanked Longtimecaller, nilford.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and yes, the argument has been made and broadly accepted that the channels are all not as good as stuff in the old days.

Neither are Creme Eggs but you either accept that it's not going to taste the same and eat them, choose not to eat them any longer or bore the shop staff by coming in and complaining everyday that Creme Eggs were a lot better in them days.

Unless we can become an effective lobby group (and christ, some members can barely can talk coherently or civilly to each other on the forum, let alone mobilise into a champion group for the channel's glory days) and convince the channels/OFCOM to turn back the clock we are likely just pissing in the wind, so just enjoy what you can enjoy from whatever babes/channels you can right now because one day they'll be gone....completely gone.

If you want to complain, fine, who's really going to stop you and who knows, you maybe right, but can't we just enjoy the dimming lights of the babechannels of the present rather than look to the past as we can't change it and to bring it back into the present would be herculean and miraculous.
A tendency to moan excessively and to decry the new is one of the signal signs of the aging process, so it's either the old farts in here who are doing it, or it's young fogeys who have developed the crabbits prematurely! Probably a mix of the two, as the two factions egg each other on.
I don't need to be egged on by old farts or young fogeys.
The channels do the job instead Wink.
Rather wish they wouldn't though.
I actually can't stand being so miserable and critical.
Would much rather be praising the shows with good reason.
To set out with the intention of disliking anything seems as daft as it is pointless to me Huh.
Just to let all know I do not work for any of the babe shows I'm a viewer and caller.

I'm just stating that a lot of the time all this forum does is blame the girls you're watching on television. We all have managers including these girls so why are so many scrutinising the girls, haven't you thought they've been told to do certain poses etc. (prime example - Studio 66 girls always seem to put clothes back on after calls - this never used to be the case so is it something they've been told to do?) just my opinion, some times the girls look bored, Maybe down to being tired? I mean we've all been tired at work, these are unsocial hours the girls are doing - no matter how anyone puts this, it's a job for them at the end of the day. Some people in all types of jobs take there jobs more seriously then others but I think the decline of motivation in some of the girls is the decline in viewers/callers in the channel I think this isn't down to the girls attitudes but down to the fact that Webcams etc are more popular? No idea. Just my opinion.
(18-05-2015 21:11 )Longtimecaller Wrote: [ -> ]down to the fact that Webcams etc are more popular?

Now on this point I think you may be on to something to be honest. I have often wondered whether babes have become more interested in webcam and website work instead because of the potential financial gain but also because they get to do what they want on their own terms. Your point about unsocial hours ties in with this too.
Just a thought.
(18-05-2015 21:17 )snookered147 Wrote: [ -> ]
(18-05-2015 21:11 )Longtimecaller Wrote: [ -> ]down to the fact that Webcams etc are more popular?

Now on this point I think you may be on to something to be honest. I have often wondered whether babes have become more interested in webcam and website work instead because of the potential financial gain but also because they get to do what they want on their own terms. Your point about unsocial hours ties in with this too.
Just a thought.

I agree with that although if you look at the webcams section of this forum there are a number of babes who come in for a lot of criticism there for quality of shows,some of whom are criticised for their performance on the nightshows too.

Probably down to the attitude of the babe in question really.

Which brings us back to the startHuh
I think I'll be having an early night tonight as it all just looks a bit shitey to me. A couple of babes which I like are on but I just know that they'll be censored to fuck as per fucking usual.
(20-05-2015 23:27 )Scottishbloke Wrote: [ -> ]I think I'll be having an early night tonight as it all just looks a bit shitey to me. A couple of babes which I like are on but I just know that they'll be censored to fuck as per fucking usual.

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