(20-08-2010 01:06 )cityboy76 Wrote: [ -> ]Can we try to put things into perspective with regards to Sammie not going fully topless. The point of these shows is to attract people to text and call in to speak to the girls,
your rite when you say this but shes shooting herself in the foot by saying call and i will free the pups. so she sort of defeats the purpose by making a statment then not following through. next time she does a night show she just wont get the calls. if she had of said nothing it would have been more acceptable to the guys, i think.
Quote:they're not on screen for the sole purpose of entertaining the viewer,they're on screen to get them to call in. Now having watched Sammies full show it's quite clear that she is a very popular girl on the phone,I don't recall a time where she was off the phone for more than a minute at a time,so therefore she's had a very succesful night at her job.
i may well have been a very successful night but her next night wont be, because the guys now know she doesnt deliver on her own hype.
Quote: I'll agree that it can get frustrating that she doesn't go topless when she says she will but clearly this is part of the ploy to keep people watching and calling in,a ploy that has clearly worked. Having listened in to Sammie on the phone I can quite safely say that if you haven't called her your missing out on the key part of her performance as she is absolutely fantastic,you also wouldn't have been left feeling frustrated.
i dunno what girl you were listening to but sammie was mildly filthy on the phone at best...
Quote: I'm sure this debate will rage on and on but I personally don't care if Sammie "gets em out" or not,i'm quite happy to settle for seeing an absolutely stunning girl with an unbelievable figure on my screen shaking that oh so wonderful arse,and as Chilly said talking utter filth on the phones!
this is indeed part of the problem, guys making this kind of statement, being all unconditional and the likes. all it does is encourage the girls to keep doing poor shows and mug callers and txters in the process. you can make all the excuses you want but at the end of the day sammie said she would get em out and didn't.
so please stop trying to defend her... all your gonna do is piss of the members that weren't happy.
Personally, I quite enjoyed the 3 sessions she did.
If you were just out for a tease show then they were great. But if you were listening to her talk, and what she was going to do, then you would be disappointed at the results.
It would have gone down as a pretty good show if she'd kept her mouth shut, and not said certain things.
So visually she was great. But she didn't do anything to improve her reputation, and ended up damaging Elite's in the process.
Well all i've seen is the caps so far, but it looks like it was pretty sexy to me, though i can understand why there will have been an element of disppointment that the Pups stayed in their kennels.
Hexit I have to wonder how you are so sure that 'next time she does a night show she just wont get the calls.'
That's the attitude you had to Paige Tyler's performances back in the day, but you have since admitted you were surprised that instead of losing support she went from strength to strength and became (as she now is) one of the most important and popular girls on Babestation.
You've made it clear how much you don't like girls using these tease-centred techniques (you've made it clear very often in fact) but you have to accept they seem to work and that ultimately a large chunk of the watchers/callers do enjoy them.
You have every right to say your piece on the matter but so has Cityboy and other Sammie fans.
By all accounts she was never off the phone for long all night, and a look at her caps/video thread shows a level of coverage of the event on a level with Danica and Alice events... so Sammie's clearly capturing the attention of many, whether or not she's your type of performer.
i personally think sammie should be made to do another nightshow and deliver on her promise asap or people who texted and phoned in should get there money back
(20-08-2010 05:52 )Rise Wrote: [ -> ]Well all i've seen is the caps so far, but it looks like it was pretty sexy to me, though i can understand why there will have been an element of disppointment that the Pups stayed in their kennels.
Hexit I have to wonder how you are so sure that 'next time she does a night show she just wont get the calls.'
That's the attitude you had to Paige Tyler's performances back in the day, but you have since admitted you were surprised that instead of losing support she went from strength to strength and became (as she now is) one of the most important and popular girls on Babestation.
You've made it clear how much you don't like girls using these tease-centred techniques (you've made it clear very often in fact) but you have to accept they seem to work and that ultimately a large chunk of the watchers/callers do enjoy them.
You have every right to say your piece on the matter but so has Cityboy and other Sammie fans.
By all accounts she was never off the phone for long all night, and a look at her caps/video thread shows a level of coverage of the event on a level with Danica and Alice events... so Sammie's clearly capturing the attention of many, whether or not she's your type of performer.
here we go again....
first paige did lose support b4 she went to brazil she was getting next to no shifts and when she was she was getting less airtime than any other girl.
she came back from brazil with an attitude change and got her tits out on her very fist show back... then she performed better.. even now she hasn't got the same appeal as she 1s had. just look at the number of members in her group... a few dozen at best. yet at 1 time im pretty sure that group would have had hundreds of members...
i never said sammie wont get any calls, but she will have less calls "her call numbers will be way down" because guys now know her word means squat. and because paige tyler pulled the same stunt the guys now know the score.
honestly rise i couldn't give a fuck either way what you think, but don't try to rewrite history. or put words in my mouth... "tease centered technique"? when have i ever said that. i like a tease as much as the next guy, as long as the girl delivers at the end of it...
the fact is your choosing to ignore the fact that sammie said on multiple occasions that she would be getting her pups out if she got calls and txts and then didnt. maybe thats the reason she had lots of calls... (she may well be popular but last night she came off looking less than rosy, and shouldn't have made statements she wasn't prepared to back up, is my point. if you dont like it tough, theres plenty of others here posting the same...)
you cant blame me for her hyping herself, so don't even try.
also theres plenty of other guys on here posting the same opinions as me, so why pick out my posts?...
best you try replying to them coz i cant be assed...
oh and for your information, i am a fan of sammies and probably always will be, but that doesnt take away from the fact last night she resorted to sales techniques that were beneath her...
P.S. the only reason i mention paige in this post is because she is the most notorious for using the plz call/txt hype type shite... as an example nothing more. so dont go claiming im having a go at her either.
I thought Sammie looked fantastic and the second outfit was possibly the sexiest I have ever seen on Elite (apart from nakedness of course!). If she hadn't said what she said then I would have notched this up as a great tease fest a la Danica but she did make statements that she didn't fully back up. The caps will show she slipped and flashed and the soap suds did slide off so technically in a court of law she could argue the pups were freed but we all know what the callers and texters wanted don't we Sammie? I still think she will be on the phone all night either way such is her appeal and most girls have struggled with calls at some point in the past few weeks but not Sammie. I think she should have got them out at the end and we still would have wanted more next time, somebody somewhere doesn't seem to think so as this is being orchestrated to generate maximum interest and frustration. A risky strategy?
(20-08-2010 05:27 )HEX!T Wrote: [ -> ]this is indeed part of the problem, guys making this kind of statement, being all unconditional and the likes. all it does is encourage the girls to keep doing poor shows and mug callers and txters in the process. you can make all the excuses you want but at the end of the day sammie said she would get em out and didn't.
so please stop trying to defend her... all your gonna do is piss of the members that weren't happy.
I fail to see how I was defending Sammie here Hexit and how i'm being "all unconditional and the like". I clearly said I could see why people would be frustrated by her claims that she would get them out,but merely stated that it wasn't the be all and end all for me and that I enjoyed the show,an opinion i'm entitled to make without being accused of being "unconditional". What one person enjoys another won't and debate is bound to occur. Sammmie did exactly the same thing last time she did a nightshow if i remember correctly so should anyone really be suprised that this tactic of getting calls/texts continued last night,I for one wasn't. I respect your right to voice your opinion that Sammies show was poor last Hexit as this is what the forum is here for,but don't accept that my opinion will encourage more poor shows.
Well Sammies show was divided into 2 diiferent issues, the whole 'boobgate' and then the actual preformance.
The pups were technically unleashed, albeit covered in bubbles. Not sure most of those who sent in a text would be happy with that though. The idea for the texts was great business, but with no real pay off I don't know if the volume of text messages on Sammie next night show will be the same. Given it will prob be a couple of months at least until the next (going by when Sammie was last on nights), it could also be forgotten by then, and work just as well.
The actual show itself, first section, great, good stuff from Sammie, the dom gear worked, and the sly zip down to crotch to show the piercings was a winner.
Didn't like the 2nd. Sizzling outfit, but Sammie had to concentrate too much on keeping her boobs and bits in it to be able to give 100%. I had the impression that either we were waiting for the bath for some puppy action, or we were not gonna get any at all(which turned out to be the case).
3rd section was good as well, Sammie was more comfortable in the bikini and was able to do her thing.
Overall it was good, but the whole topless thing overshadowed it a bit for some.
regarding the whole sammie going topless. as far as im concerned she did as several times she had them out albeit in the hand bra and when she was in the bath she did set them free and used bubbles to cover the nips. Also was the odd escape by the pups too But i can completely understand why people are annoyed with sammie as she kept going on the mic saying text and ill get them out and yet she didnt go fully topless. As i said in the chatbox rthe bare minimum for a night babe is to go fully topless
I do think though that people are getting too obessed with sammie going topless as apart from that she does good nightshows. Last night she had 3 outfits on in 3 and a half hours and went in the bath. she was also filthier than on her dayshows and one of the moments of the night when she came on in probably has to be the best outfit ever worn on elite's nightshows the very skimpy purple outfit
Rammy I do not think thats why people are up in arms. if you are selling something which she is and someone decides to buy then she should deliver. She said she would go topless if she got enough texts whatever that means she was on for three hours she must have got close!!! personally if you gonna do a night show it should be mandatory to expect to be at least topless its sort of meaningless otherwise. I did speak to her last night as well and she ain't that filthy bit giggly to be fair. whenever i speak to lolly badcock i don't know where to look thats what i call filthy. Good job Mica and Ashley was on they delivered big time!!!