The UK Babe Channels Forum

(17-04-2011 20:45 )Renfrew169 Wrote: [ -> ]Mr mans suggestion is an interesting proposal - I can see that it is in the interest of all the channels to work together and were they all to have fully naked content at once it may be difficult for Ofcom to deal with.

My only contribution would be that this might just harden attitudes within the regulators (or their masters ).

Isn't it inevitable that fully naked will eventually be accepted because as has been said - if the girls are happy to appear naked ( and they obviously are ), the callers/viewers want it and the girls and channels will be more profitable because of the likely increase in callers, then noone is harmed and Ofcom can get on with what their real job should be.

Just a thought

Exactly. Also, full nudity doesn't need to be a constant thing, because some of the tease element is always nice to maintain, to keep some of the suspense from show to show. It would be great to see the women go all out and show more for once, but there should also be instances where they keep it unpredictable, to keep things even keeled.

IMO, it's not so much about how often they show everything, but that they are allowed to. If they are allowed to, then we will still have suspenseful shows, because the choice will be up to the women. Right now, all we have in terms of suspense and anticipation is whether or not we'll get a slip, or whether or not we'll see a hot 2-4-1 etc, but if full nudity or more was allowed, then the anticipation would be on what the women have decided to show on any particular evening. We will have the excitement of never knowing what we're going to get, as oppose to now, where we can pretty much guess how the night shows are going to go, the majority of the time at least. Showing more will also help these channels financially, as there will certainly be a bit of an incline in callers. How much of an incline I don't know, but I do think there would be one. Now, there would need to be a balancing act too. If a caller asks to see everything right away, then that's up to the women, and will be fine, because there is someone calling, so the profit is coming in. However, one should not have high expectations just because the censorship is relaxed, and should understand that the women might not be in the mood to show more at certain times, so that will need to be addressed as well. Just because they can show more, doesn't mean they have to!

There would also need to be an agreement, I feel, with the women and producers of every channel, to not tame things below what we are already seeing. By that I mean, if the censorship is relaxed, the worst thing would be to see every woman on every channel in thick bras and underwear, in an attempt to prolong things as long as possible, for financial gain. This rarely works, as we've seen it with other women on other channels who have shown more in photo shoots and non adult channel vids, and how there has been a backlash when they won't even take off their bra after many calls. It's usually a producer choice I would assume, to hold the women back in their performances, as to try to get as many callers up front, before the women decide to show more. I understand that tactic completely, but with most of these channels that have women who've gone nude on them before, this tactic will fail. It only really works on women who are new to the night shows, and that's where it should stay. We've seen regulars who've had very tame nights, but I think we can tell that they just aren't in the mood for showing more, so that's OK of course because we know what they are like in general.

This is how I would hope for things to go, if infact Ofcom (Real spelling this time ) allows for relaxed censorship soon. However, I have doubts they will, so I think the channels should make this decision on their own, and team together, make amends and not be scared to show something normal and natural for a change.

If a mod wants to move this to the regulations section, then I understand

(17-04-2011 20:45 )Renfrew169 Wrote: [ -> ]Mr mans suggestion is an interesting proposal - I can see that it is in the interest of all the channels to work together and were they all to have fully naked content at once it may be difficult for Ofcom to deal with.

My only contribution would be that this might just harden attitudes within the regulators (or their masters ).

Isn't it inevitable that fully naked will eventually be accepted because as has been said - if the girls are happy to appear naked ( and they obviously are ), the callers/viewers want it and the girls and channels will be more profitable because of the likely increase in callers, then noone is harmed and Ofcom can get on with what their real job should be.

Just a thought

somehow i cant see the likes of babe station getting together with the rest they think they are so high and mighty but they never seem to get any bad press about how far their shows go i sometimes wonder if a certain persons pocket is being lined to ignore these two !

(17-04-2011 23:21 )mrmann Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-04-2011 20:45 )Renfrew169 Wrote: [ -> ]Mr mans suggestion is an interesting proposal - I can see that it is in the interest of all the channels to work together and were they all to have fully naked content at once it may be difficult for Ofcom to deal with.

My only contribution would be that this might just harden attitudes within the regulators (or their masters ).

Isn't it inevitable that fully naked will eventually be accepted because as has been said - if the girls are happy to appear naked ( and they obviously are ), the callers/viewers want it and the girls and channels will be more profitable because of the likely increase in callers, then noone is harmed and Ofcom can get on with what their real job should be.

Just a thought

Exactly. Also, full nudity doesn't need to be a constant thing, because some of the tease element is always nice to maintain, to keep some of the suspense from show to show. It would be great to see the women go all out and show more for once, but there should also be instances where they keep it unpredictable, to keep things even keeled.

IMO, it's not so much about how often they show everything, but that they are allowed to. If they are allowed to, then we will still have suspenseful shows, because the choice will be up to the women. Right now, all we have in terms of suspense and anticipation is whether or not we'll get a slip, or whether or not we'll see a hot 2-4-1 etc, but if full nudity or more was allowed, then the anticipation would be on what the women have decided to show on any particular evening. We will have the excitement of never knowing what we're going to get, as oppose to now, where we can pretty much guess how the night shows are going to go, the majority of the time at least. Showing more will also help these channels financially, as there will certainly be a bit of an incline in callers. How much of an incline I don't know, but I do think there would be one. Now, there would need to be a balancing act too. If a caller asks to see everything right away, then that's up to the women, and will be fine, because there is someone calling, so the profit is coming in. However, one should not have high expectations just because the censorship is relaxed, and should understand that the women might not be in the mood to show more at certain times, so that will need to be addressed as well. Just because they can show more, doesn't mean they have to!

There would also need to be an agreement, I feel, with the women and producers of every channel, to not tame things below what we are already seeing. By that I mean, if the censorship is relaxed, the worst thing would be to see every woman on every channel in thick bras and underwear, in an attempt to prolong things as long as possible, for financial gain. This rarely works, as we've seen it with other women on other channels who have shown more in photo shoots and non adult channel vids, and how there has been a backlash when they won't even take off their bra after many calls. It's usually a producer choice I would assume, to hold the women back in their performances, as to try to get as many callers up front, before the women decide to show more. I understand that tactic completely, but with most of these channels that have women who've gone nude on them before, this tactic will fail. It only really works on women who are new to the night shows, and that's where it should stay. We've seen regulars who've had very tame nights, but I think we can tell that they just aren't in the mood for showing more, so that's OK of course because we know what they are like in general.

This is how I would hope for things to go, if infact Ofcom (Real spelling this time ) allows for relaxed censorship soon. However, I have doubts they will, so I think the channels should make this decision on their own, and team together, make amends and not be scared to show something normal and natural for a change.

If a mod wants to move this to the regulations section, then I understand

I also agree with this - its not necessary or expected that there will be full nakedness all the time. Its just that the taking away of the threat that any full nudity will be punished, will make the whole thing more relaxed for the girls and the producers. It will also mean that the channels are genuinely "what it says on the can".

Equally, it is preferable for there to be teasing in the performances and Bailey is absolutely brilliant at choosing outfits that hit just the right tone.

I also understand if a moderator wants to move this post into regulations section

My big question for Sportxxx is this if you are under investigation from Ofcom what strategy's do you have in place to take on these bastards because a review of the current code needs challenging to take away any of the fear factor that currently exists. We are now into the year 2011, not 1911 so for the sake of the future of this show is Sport willing to take on the power's that be if they are under investigation. The UK like most civilized western countries is a democracy so with the proper defense team in place Ofcom are well over due to be thrown out of office along with their silly little rule book they carry about with them all the time. Stand up for your rights and throw the bastards out or even have a restraining order of some sort put on them even it means going all the way to the European court of human rights as victory in the end I believe will prevail.

agree if the channels including sport make a stand then there is a chance the rules can be relaxed. im sure sport do have plans to fight ofcom, but for now well have to accept sport will be toned down for a bit now

And it's not a question of if Ofcom will be defeated, it's now when, this nonsense that currently exists has to stop. Somebody like I said has to bring these bastards into line or better still sack the fucking lot of them or basically read the riot act out to them, fining them and also revoking the powers they currently have for TV regulating as they have abused this power for too long now. Basically strip them of any involvement with the babe channels with immediate effect. You play any clips of the UK Babe Channels in a Dutch Court for example that is deemed to be offensive and they would piss themselves laughing and Ofcom would be firmly put in their place. Sport would win this one hands down with Ladbrokes allready installed them as 2/1 favourites. (By the way all bets are now off!)

(18-04-2011 20:03 )Scottishbloke Wrote: [ -> ]And it's not a question of if Ofcom will be defeated, it's now when, this nonsense that currently exists has to stop. Somebody like I said has to bring these bastards into line or better still sack the fucking lot of them or basically read the riot act out to them, fining them and also revoking the powers they currently have for TV regulating as they have abused this power for too long now. Basically strip them of any involvement with the babe channels with immediate effect. You play any clips of the UK Babe Channels in a Dutch Court for example that is deemed to be offensive and they would piss themselves laughing and Ofcom would be firmly put in their place. Sport would win this one hands down with Ladbrokes allready installed them as 2/1 favourites. (By the way all bets are now off!)

well the longer they leave it the less the lines will be kept busy ive saved myself another 15 quid tonight sooner or later ill find summat else to spend it on so will other callers ,it says a lot when club paradiso outshines the great sport channel ,taking nothing away from bob at paradiso at least his girls have remained getting naked during all of this dark cloud which has arisen by ofcom during the past months ,even if they maybe a little less risque ;(

fair enough but i think sport has been good tonight and better than paradiso

Not going nude will only make ofcon more suspicious IMO. I see this with other channels as well, with how they stop going nude because of an ofcon investigation, when it's actually perfectly fine to do so!

Taming things is fine, but not going nude or showing what is allowed, will only make them stand out more. The women tonight could be doing the handthong, and would be perfectly in line with the rules.

Hopefully the sport producers will see our unhappiness and frustration with them suddenly tightening things up and relax the rules. For now we will have to accept the shows will be quieter for a bit. But I'm sure sport will be back to it's best. Remember all channels have spells where they go tamer and then go back to being full on