(03-09-2020 22:29 )M-L-L Wrote: [ -> ]Trivia - I believe the category 12 was introduced specifically for Tim Burton's "Batman" in 1989, to avoid box-office calamity if it was given a 15.
There was a similar brouhaha over Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom (1984) which featured a living man having his heart ripped out of his chest and then it being held aloft and bursting into flames. It received a PG in the end. Ho hum.
Intersting to compare what kinds of levels of violence (CGI generated or otherwise), swearing and general innuendo and general "disgusting-ness" is allowed in films these days compared to these two fairly tame examples.
(All the original Star Wars trilogy films were "U", any of the duff prequels or Disney sequels rated as innocent ?
Ahem.)
Just shows.
There were similar issues when Spiderman (2002) was released. If I remember right (strong possibility I'm remembering wrong) it was rated 12, so small kids couldn't get in to see it. I believe that's around the time they brought in the 12A rating so those small kids could see it whilst being accompanied by an adult.
^ Sir, apparently you are sort of but not quite correct. As the article in the link below confirms.
Apparently the first film in UK to receive a 12A was The Bourne Identity.
Spiderman (2002) did receive a 12 on its first release.
This was protested against, due to the amount of young children buying Spiderman related merchandise before the release, who then could not get into the film.
The 12A category was introduced in UK on 30th August 2002.
"Spiderman" was originally released in April 2002. as a "12", in spite of the film company wanting a "PG"; the reason apparently being the level of violence.
Under pressure, some local authorities took the decision to give the film a PG or PG12 certificate, with instruction that under-12s be accompanied by an adult.
(Apparently, the legal power actually rests with local authorities, but is very rarely used, and they normally rely on the BBFC, otherwise all local authorities would have to employ their own film censors.)
After the introduction of the 12A category, the distributors of Spiderman decided to re-release the film.
Coincidence ?
Quote: "The decision to introduce 12A had nothing to do with SpiderMan or the the pressure from parents or children who wanted to see the film". Really ?
And apparently it was all due to the people of Norwich, who were the subject of a pilot study in 2001 of showing films being considered to be rated "12" and asking parents opinions.
https://www.bbfc.co.uk/case-studies/spider-man
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