The UK Babe Channels Forum

FYI They have streamed BS24 on the UK web platforms for quite some time. The only thing that is missing is the cams.

Technically, they could do that as well since all streams and cams come from the same servers. And the same company provides the programming for the websites and the cams as well. But UK-BS might object to that since it could take away some of their business. And on some platforms they do have content that has no direct or indirect connection with BS. These also have webcam services but one has to look elsewhere for that.

And, yes, since Samy has a solo tonight she might bring her best climbing boots with her.

So one explanation for their inconsisteny is gone. I think we will never know. They are as transparent as the NSA on that part. In the chat they either ignore critics or write "go to Pervcam if you want something". Once they even mocked someone and said he should pay or shut up. So they have to learn it themselves that they have to be more consistent with what they do. They don't give a damn about feedback. I think producers of shows like these don't think very much of the viewers.

We had an incident like that in Germany a few months back. The president of one of the biggest private entertainment channels wrote a letter to the board of directors of his channel. In this letter he named the viewers of his channel "fat, poor, dumb and uneducated". I think that Channels like Babestation are not different...

Even if they let her have her way and tonight it's a great show with borderline Hardcore action this is not enough for me. I will like the show because I like Samy but like I said I reflected my consuming bahaviour. Nobody (including me) would watch a TV show nowadays if only every 3-4 episode is satisfying.

I think one of the reason these shows are still running is that people like the live "magic". Every show is different. I know that. I think that is the reason why I am still watching it. But I think there has to be a certain "boundary" what you can expect. But since they have the Pervcam they seem to change their concept and "rules" from day to day.
I'm not even saying that it always have to be like Samy on Wednesday night. The boundary can be lower. Don't get me wrong. But they have to find a middle way; a certain standard which they obey. If they don't do that people like me will stop watching the show. As hard as it is for me with girls who I watch for many years like Lejla.

But I already said that.

Back to soft.

I think I will start a next try to get away from this show. As I said. Habits are powerful but they are not worth my time anymore.

Maybe I will miss a good show from time to time but the waiting time for that is just too ridiculous.

Today's 'ticked' box is not for Angi Kroxx. I have no great expectations with her although she did after a few hours play more to the cam (sans panties) than when she started.

But the new girl, whose name I failed to catch, looks promising. Threatened to go further than they would allow (hands in pants full camera on etc.) so she could be reined in should she appear again. No cam work but that is to be expected for a first-timer.

(09-10-2018 10:55 )DB83 Wrote: [ -> ]Today's 'ticked' box is not for Angi Kroxx. I have no great expectations with her although she did after a few hours play more to the cam (sans panties) than when she started.

But the new girl, whose name I failed to catch, looks promising. Threatened to go further than they would allow (hands in pants full camera on etc.) so she could be reined in should she appear again. No cam work but that is to be expected for a first-timer.

Ah... DB I would like to be such an optimistic person like you

Yesterday I did something which I not normally do: I registered for their Chat. There were so many people complaining about the show and particularly about the obscene price of the Pervcam. The Team was defending themselves so they were in the chat too. I thought that my time had come to speak (write) directly to them.

So I said basically anything I did here to them. As soon as they realised that I am somebody who is not easy to shake off with remarks like "Go and pay to see more" they stopped arguing immediately.

So they claimed that they got in trouble for their show on Wednesday. I said that I don´t believe them one word they say. 1. Because that happened more often that they showed a little more and 2. because of the system of youth protection I explained here. So that was definetly planned.
They even claimed that what they showed was "accidental". I had too laugh very hard considering the cameramen zoomed in on the open pussy

First lie on their part.

Then they claimed that the Pervcam has to be that expensive because of the "expensive equipment". But they have this studio for years and the 2 Pervcams and one Laptop is so expensive? Plus they are a daughter of one of the biggest companies in the UK. They have big investors. So they can´t afford that? Laughable.

Second lie.

Then they repeated constantly that they can´t show hardcore on TV which was a total strawmen because everybody knows that. Nobody in the chat was demanding that. There were 3-4 people who were exactly on my side that the show could be way more hotter in the erotic direction than this emulated porn Camshow-TV-Show Hybrid thing.

No reaction.

Why not a bit more "sexy atmosphere" with candles, oil or fog or something? "Health reasons". Of course...

The ultimate Question: Why sometimes so soft and then two days later so hot and then again soft and that for months?

No reaction.

Aren´t they at least a bit ashamed that people are paying at the moment for the Pervcam despite the fact that the girl in front of it doesn´t take her pants off (the discussion was before Angie did it). Isn´t that a bit scammy?

No reaction.

So you see. They aren´t interested in real "Fans" anymore. They aren´t interested in a good show. You know the song "Money Money Money" from Abba? That´s their only rule and mantra since this year. They will go through with that to the bitter end. Either their concept with the Pervcam works or they will perish.

I said that if they do this game of "one show hot then for a few days not, then hot and for a few days soft" for a longer time that they will vanish in 6 months to a year because they will lose their base of TV viewers with that.

No reaction to that of course.

And they broke their promise to stop with the annoying splitscreen and reduce blurry cam. What did they do when Angie finally lost her pants? Yes. Splitcreen and blurry cam. And if to prove a point they used extra big black bars and a very small screen.

The new girl was beautiful and hot. But I don´t think that they let her do something special... at least yet. I think this is another one of their "teasing" things. You have girls that are pornstars. They do anal, fisting, piss porn, gangbangs and bukkake. But all of a sudden they are shy because of the Pervcam... Of coooouurrrsssee.

I am sorry but considering this show I am a total cynic now.

Even if they do a hot show every 10 days or so. This isn´t worth it. Their concept is not made for me.

Maybe I am an optimist. I regard this stuff as an 'escape'. To forget about one's problems for a few hours. I try not to take it too seriously although I can easily get annoyed when they overdo the promo stuff and the PIP.

Yes, I have purchased coins (here and on the UK sites) but on a tiny scale. Certainly not enough to keep them in business.

I find, and not a snipe at you my friend since I do hope that you can find the time to post here or it's gonna be a lonely place, that those who generally complain the most are those that spend the least. I have been quite guilty of that when I was a regular poster elsewhere with regards to Eurotic. But I did hit a nerve there and was challenged to design a show for them. Which I did but they did not directly use it although some of the 'script' did appear in other shows.

Cost-wise of this service is actually quite reasonable. It was quickly reduced from the 30 coins per min. to 20. I assume it still is although have not checked lately. Private/cam-to-cam would be a waste IMO. In the UK the cost quickly went from 15 credits per min. to 30. I can only compare this to visit-x at 1.79 euro per min which of course is cheaper and is a proper cam service. This pervcam stuff is not.

But if you think this is bad, spend a little more time over at the UK site. Click on the wrong girl and all you get is a blurr. This stuff is internet only but you have to pay £3 (30 credits) per min to see actually much less than you think. And that £3 is taken as soon as you log in even if you stay for a few seconds since it was not what you were expecting. Atleast BS24 only charges you for time spent. Of course that can, like anything else, change without prior warning.

A IMO correction. BS24 is not a daughter of UK-BS. More of a younger sister. The holding company, I believe, is based in the Netherlands. Little to do where the individual channels are registered. That could be for tax purposes.

the problem is not the cost of the pervcam (x-visit and other camgirl sites have the same price or more) but the content. yesterday angi was 30 minutes stopped with the pants in front of the pervcam continuing to yawn. they had a good idea with the wireless phone, obviously removed after only a few days .let alone if they want to invest in sets, special effects or other things that improve the quality.

(09-10-2018 16:18 )DB83 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe I am an optimist. I regard this stuff as an 'escape'. To forget about one's problems for a few hours. I try not to take it too seriously although I can easily get annoyed when they overdo the promo stuff and the PIP.

For me this is an escape too. But I really don´t like to be fooled and I think since the Pervcam they crossed a certain line. It might be just me because I am old school but since this year... I don´t know ... they annoy me more than they give me joy.

I am trying to stop watching this show but this is quite hard. I said it before: I watch these kind of shows since I was 14. They were some of the defining things of my puberty. Although I don´t want to watch them anymore I can´t help to at least zap in for a few mins.

I am trying to find alternatives now. I said that often so you already know: I like more softer erotic. Of course I watch porn also but sometimes I like it a bit more "gentle" and with a bit more "style". And it is very hard to find such things. The Internet is full of porn but "erotic" in the real sense of the word is very seldom.
So I am trying to find old vids of Eurotic but this is very hard too. Mostly there are caps on some eastern european sites who aren´t looking very trustworthy...
On the big Tube Porn Sites ( I don´t know if I am allowed to say the names) there are some fine things too.

Eventually I will get away from shows like Babestation24 but this will be a hard move.

(09-10-2018 16:18 )DB83 Wrote: [ -> ]I find, and not a snipe at you my friend since I do hope that you can find the time to post here or it's gonna be a lonely place, that those who generally complain the most are those that spend the least. I have been quite guilty of that when I was a regular poster elsewhere with regards to Eurotic. But I did hit a nerve there and was challenged to design a show for them. Which I did but they did not directly use it although some of the 'script' did appear in other shows.

Of course I know that this is not a charity. They are a company, they have to earn money. That´s capitalism. I don´t like this form of economics but that´s the way it is.
But I think we are forgetting that this is a TV show. My point is: If you broadcast regularly on TV then you have to do a show worth of the TV. And every other Free TV channel can be succesfull without some extra pay service. They do that with commercials which is difficult for a show like Babestation24 since big companies like Coca Cola or Mc Donald´s are not willing to place adverts on an erotic show, granted. But they have the phone calls and believe me: That´s a fuck load of money they are reeling in alone with that.
The show went almost for7 years without a Pervcam and prospered. But then capitalism showed its dirty face and much money was not enough.

I think it´s irrelevant if they are a big sister or little sister or great grand aunt of any company. In the discussion yesterday they basically claimed to be poor. And that - i find - is disgustingly dishonest and shows some disrespect for the intelligence of the viewers.

I realise that what will follow is essentially boring but my work, before illness took that away, was accountancy. And, to echo Monty Python, you can not get much more boring than that.

Let's consider a simple scenario. One girl, one caller. The income generated from that will hardly cover studio costs let alone satellite rental and a profit to the parent company. So they then require 'listeners'. I do not know if this service provides for that.

They might have 'prospered' in the days gone by but users have become more particular as to where they spend their money. So the pervcam is not so much an extra source of income but a substitution for lost income. Hence the claim of 'expensive' equipment.

And the reduced hours also reflect the reduced income.

Pervcams have been prominent in the UK since 2014 or possibly a little earlier. They are probably more popular during the day for more obvious reasons but even then unless you are a total tool (and unfortunately there are many out there that are) the income from them is limited. What is quite noticeable in the UK that with the advent of the cam that calls have reduced substantially. The cam shows are now heavily promoted. Yet I do believe that even the appeal of that is now wearing thin so you get short shows and several during a working shift. But why then run and expensive studio/sat service when the girls could do the same from home ? So it's a fine balance but I do not think they 'prosper' from this.

And if they got in to trouble then someone is watching. Someone who would be happy to see them off the tv screens for good. So, yes, push the boundary but be prepared to drag the rope in when the sh*t hits the fan.

(09-10-2018 19:17 )DB83 Wrote: [ -> ]But why then run and expensive studio/sat service when the girls could do the same from home ?

you said something very right. I'll give you an example. now I'm spending money on x-visit only to see only the girls who work at babestation. as it is now pervcam is not convenient for me. they have to show things that girls at home alone can not do. if there were more interaction between the girls and different set changes, I would spend my money here and not on x-visit. the video quality is definitely better. there were times where they did a good job. the girl was talking on the phone and had users in pervcam. there are girls on chaturbate who earn 2000-3000 dollars a day. if they work well here too I do not think they struggle to make a lot of money. I repeat the concept of working well and sensibly with investments (few but guessed) and in a constant way