(04-06-2010 20:39 )BluebirdBlogger Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2010 11:49 )davos11 Wrote: [ -> ]Dear bluebird....
There is doing what you say and doing what you say eventually after changing what you say numerous times,your failings to admit this just make you look even worse.
Do i really have to go back through the archives of both here and bgafd to find your statements and quotes of when these scenes will arrive.
We both know you have given many release dates,it was originally supposed to be a "new years present"i was born in september ...i know id be pissed off if i did get my birthday presents until march.
It seems the general feel of most people i talk to on here is that they feel you are arrogant and condescending and sometimes even abusive.
You cannot seem to grasp why people are upset here,
if you tell people one thing and dont come through they have a right to be annoyed,if you give 4 seperate release dates and fuck the first 3 up but eventually get it right releasing the film 7 months later,its not a great result or an achievement,its a fuck up ,it means you have got it wrong 3 out of 4 times ,75% of the time you messed up.
You seem to think you deserve a big pat on the back from the public because you eventually did what you were going to say.
Its really not good enough.
I really do not understand the whole problem with you posting preview pics or trailers,if you have the footage already then share it if its what the fans want,even if it is months before the release date,its only a preview.
It seems like you have this strategy of trying to prick tease the fans/memebers by refusing to give these previews and constantly putting back the releae dates,not getting the dvds out on time etc.
I really do not understand this as the scene/dvd is only going to be bought once by each person,just because you have pissed us about for months doesnt then mean we are all going to buy 6 scenes or copies each.
Your withholding an in demand product which to me is de-valuing it as it makes me alot less likely to part with my money ,the models carry on working,do more shoots,in many cases change(boob jobs,tatts,plastic surgery etc...) and people can go off them,
What was in demand a year ago might not be so much now,
heavenly for instance with the opening of her new website,a new place to find new material and live shows,poor example as with everything she does nowadays the site is awful and lacklustre but the whole tvbabes/glambirds franchise was built on what the fans wanted,even years ago when you started,you were in the bgafd forums asking US what girls we were interested in and how much we would pay to see a scene,the market research was done by us the fans,if its made you alot of money its because we told you what we want and you listened,
were telling you what we want now so try listening as i think 12 months or so ago the public where very much with you and behind you and i think now everybody is just hoping another site will come along with the same idea so we can all jump ship.... and im afraid alot of that is down to you and the rest of marketing, due to the strange ideas you have in customer satisfaction and the way you speak to the customers.
Im sure you will not agree to any of this but im sure all the people your trying to sell the product to will,so either keep pampering your BIG BLUE ego or grit your teeth ,admit you have messed up alot and try and work with the members rather than against them.
Allow me to respond on behalf of my colleague. As he rightly mentioned, we offer stills, trailers and commentary on our blog and YouTube page. If you are interested in what we're up to, that's the place to go. You'll see pics of Anna Lovato from SPRINT, Paige Ashley in CRANKED, photos of our Babe Channel girls, trailers for BONNY AND CLIDE, BATFUCKS, PASSENGER 69, MURDER MYSTERY WEEKEND, SEANCE, and much more. You claim that we are sitting on our product and not sharing it with you, the interested consumer. I can't say that that is the case at all. If you want to be a part of the Bluebird online community, you certainly have numerous opportunities to do so beyond the give and take on this forum.
I also can't say that Bluebird is some lark for a rich dilettante. Everyone works long, difficult hours to produce the content and we want to share it with you. My whole job is to share our company with people like you. I care about it. I'm passionate about it. It's not 3 rich guys sitting around with a camera. It's a LARGE company with facilities in 3 countries.
I understand and appreciate your frustrations as a consumer, but we spend a substantial amount of time attempting to engage and communicate with people like yourself.
That aside why aren't you updating bbfilms.com?
Surely you have enough product in your library to do this?
People like myself have parted with our money expecting weekly updates and this simply isn't happening, in the past six weeks alone it's only had one set of updates.
(04-06-2010 21:06 )rfarver1975 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2010 20:39 )BluebirdBlogger Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2010 11:49 )davos11 Wrote: [ -> ]Dear bluebird....
There is doing what you say and doing what you say eventually after changing what you say numerous times,your failings to admit this just make you look even worse.
Do i really have to go back through the archives of both here and bgafd to find your statements and quotes of when these scenes will arrive.
We both know you have given many release dates,it was originally supposed to be a "new years present"i was born in september ...i know id be pissed off if i did get my birthday presents until march.
It seems the general feel of most people i talk to on here is that they feel you are arrogant and condescending and sometimes even abusive.
You cannot seem to grasp why people are upset here,
if you tell people one thing and dont come through they have a right to be annoyed,if you give 4 seperate release dates and fuck the first 3 up but eventually get it right releasing the film 7 months later,its not a great result or an achievement,its a fuck up ,it means you have got it wrong 3 out of 4 times ,75% of the time you messed up.
You seem to think you deserve a big pat on the back from the public because you eventually did what you were going to say.
Its really not good enough.
I really do not understand the whole problem with you posting preview pics or trailers,if you have the footage already then share it if its what the fans want,even if it is months before the release date,its only a preview.
It seems like you have this strategy of trying to prick tease the fans/memebers by refusing to give these previews and constantly putting back the releae dates,not getting the dvds out on time etc.
I really do not understand this as the scene/dvd is only going to be bought once by each person,just because you have pissed us about for months doesnt then mean we are all going to buy 6 scenes or copies each.
Your withholding an in demand product which to me is de-valuing it as it makes me alot less likely to part with my money ,the models carry on working,do more shoots,in many cases change(boob jobs,tatts,plastic surgery etc...) and people can go off them,
What was in demand a year ago might not be so much now,
heavenly for instance with the opening of her new website,a new place to find new material and live shows,poor example as with everything she does nowadays the site is awful and lacklustre but the whole tvbabes/glambirds franchise was built on what the fans wanted,even years ago when you started,you were in the bgafd forums asking US what girls we were interested in and how much we would pay to see a scene,the market research was done by us the fans,if its made you alot of money its because we told you what we want and you listened,
were telling you what we want now so try listening as i think 12 months or so ago the public where very much with you and behind you and i think now everybody is just hoping another site will come along with the same idea so we can all jump ship.... and im afraid alot of that is down to you and the rest of marketing, due to the strange ideas you have in customer satisfaction and the way you speak to the customers.
Im sure you will not agree to any of this but im sure all the people your trying to sell the product to will,so either keep pampering your BIG BLUE ego or grit your teeth ,admit you have messed up alot and try and work with the members rather than against them.
Allow me to respond on behalf of my colleague. As he rightly mentioned, we offer stills, trailers and commentary on our blog and YouTube page. If you are interested in what we're up to, that's the place to go. You'll see pics of Anna Lovato from SPRINT, Paige Ashley in CRANKED, photos of our Babe Channel girls, trailers for BONNY AND CLIDE, BATFUCKS, PASSENGER 69, MURDER MYSTERY WEEKEND, SEANCE, and much more. You claim that we are sitting on our product and not sharing it with you, the interested consumer. I can't say that that is the case at all. If you want to be a part of the Bluebird online community, you certainly have numerous opportunities to do so beyond the give and take on this forum.
I also can't say that Bluebird is some lark for a rich dilettante. Everyone works long, difficult hours to produce the content and we want to share it with you. My whole job is to share our company with people like you. I care about it. I'm passionate about it. It's not 3 rich guys sitting around with a camera. It's a LARGE company with facilities in 3 countries.
I understand and appreciate your frustrations as a consumer, but we spend a substantial amount of time attempting to engage and communicate with people like yourself.
That aside why aren't you updating bbfilms.com?
Surely you have enough product in your library to do this?
People like myself have parted with our money expecting weekly updates and this simply isn't happening, in the past six weeks alone it's only had one set of updates.
i cancelled my membership about two weeks ago (that's another annoying thing, i read on bgafd that if you cancel your membership you are suspended from access immediately, i couldnt find this mentioned on the site, so had to set myself a reminder to cancel the day before renewal - every other site I have ever joined let you cancel anytime but you still get full access for the period you paid for - is this still the case BB that you immediately get removed access?) but it is very poor that they still havent updated, as i saw the notice about the server move was removed maybe a week or two ago?
am now back at killergram where they update like clockwork and also supply a great product.
BB I dont think anyone here is having a go at the films, those i saw were great (though not so keen on the american models but apart from georgia and faye but that is a personal choice) but it is the slap-hazard way everything else is run. and for me as well going off in all directions, there are so many sites coming i wouldnt know where to find the content i want. will the natasha marley bonnie and clyde be on bluebirdfilms.com when released?
(04-06-2010 21:06 )rfarver1975 Wrote: [ -> ]That aside why aren't you updating bbfilms.com?
Surely you have enough product in your library to do this?
People like myself have parted with our money expecting weekly updates and this simply isn't happening, in the past six weeks alone it's only had one set of updates.
We have started updating the site again. There will be new titles up next week.
Next week, way to go.
P!ss poor two updates in seven weeks.
Actually, sir, they are available right now at bluebirdfilmsusa.com. Latinistas Vol. 3, Gym Crack Cougars, and Bounce Vol. 2 are all available for download. In addition, as a thank you for sticking with us through this, feel free to e-mail craig@bluebirdfilmsusa.com with any requests for future content. He's our man in charge of updating the site and will respond personally.
Unfortunately I haven't stuck with you cancelled last week due to the non updating of the site.
Sorry to hear it, mate. We have a lot in store for members. Hope you give us a second chance at some point. If not, thanks for your membership.
(04-06-2010 08:15 )m100 Wrote: [ -> ]Personally couldn't care less whose name appears first on the credits but rocco, nacho, ben and stagliano were all actors for hire long before they were directors or producers. Michael Ninn was employed by vca pictures to direct two films based largely on his direction of music videos - beyond that his name appears first because of how good his stuff was. None of them seem to get drawn into these sort of arguments though do they?
And Nicholas Steele has never been actor for hire or produced music videos. But he goes first on the credits of the movies he directs for us.
They don't respond because they have no interest in engaging with your views and opinions.
We do. Is that supposed to be a bad thing ?
(04-06-2010 23:16 )BluebirdBlogger Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2010 23:09 )rfarver1975 Wrote: [ -> ]Next week, way to go.
P!ss poor two updates in seven weeks.
Actually, sir, they are available right now at bluebirdfilmsusa.com. Latinistas Vol. 3, Gym Crack Cougars, and Bounce Vol. 2 are all available for download. In addition, as a thank you for sticking with us through this, feel free to e-mail craig@bluebirdfilmsusa.com with any requests for future content. He's our man in charge of updating the site and will respond personally.
bluebirdfilmsusa.com doesn't exist - at least get your info correct
(05-06-2010 01:23 )BLUEBIRD OFFICIAL Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2010 08:15 )m100 Wrote: [ -> ]Personally couldn't care less whose name appears first on the credits but rocco, nacho, ben and stagliano were all actors for hire long before they were directors or producers. Michael Ninn was employed by vca pictures to direct two films based largely on his direction of music videos - beyond that his name appears first because of how good his stuff was. None of them seem to get drawn into these sort of arguments though do they?
And Nicholas Steele has never been actor for hire or produced music videos. But he goes first on the credits of the movies he directs for us.
They don't respond because they have no interest in engaging with your views and opinions.
We do. Is that supposed to be a bad thing ?
Nicholas Steele has been directing for a considerable time though hasn't he?
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=Ni...Steele.htm
And if i'd worked with michael ninn i'd want my name above the credits whether anyone took any notice or not. As I've said to you before the influence is obvious for anyone to see.
You were the one drawing non-existent parallels between people who have spent a long time establishing themselves in the adult business and those who particularly compared to stagliano and ben dover are relatively new. If you read the first line of my post it says it all ie who cares who's name is first on the credits - porn is seldom bought for the director/producer/company and 99.9% of the time because you want to see the girls in that film.
As for vivid etc maybe they (rightly) think they are above all this nonsense.