Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

IDS wasn't happy with Gideon Osborne persecuting the disabled, as the work & pensions secretary he believes that's his job.

(19-03-2016 10:27 )cwpussylover Wrote:  one company make the naans for aldi/m+s/asda/sharwoods/waitrose/tesco etc etc

Thanks for the tip off. I will give those establishments a wide berth.

(19-03-2016 23:28 )admiral decker Wrote:  

(19-03-2016 10:27 )cwpussylover Wrote:  one company make the naans for aldi/m+s/asda/sharwoods/waitrose/tesco etc etc

Thanks for the tip off. I will give those establishments a wide berth.

Don't you have your own personal chef, in the galley, anyway?

(17-03-2016 01:57 )wackawoo Wrote:  it could be that if we were out of Europe, sainsburys would have to pay more from mostly uk farmers, but uk farmers would be better off.

(18-03-2016 01:28 )wackawoo Wrote:  Bingo! the UK would be better off out Europe if trade links were maintained. It would only be a block on trade that would make the UK worse out of it.

You can't have it both ways.

(18-03-2016 01:28 )wackawoo Wrote:  Sounds to me like there's been some blackmail going on behind closed doors, the more I see of this the more I'm convinced of it

Ah, a conspiracy theory I knew we were missing something from this thread.

Who is being blackmailed? And how?

(20-03-2016 09:04 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  You can't have it both ways.

Well you can, I'm sure the rest of the world has trade links with Europe, without being in Europe, to me that's a no brainer.

Quote:Ah, a conspiracy theory I knew we were missing something from this thread.

Who is being blackmailed? And how?

France and Germany mainly, has as been shown on here with some nordic countries. You'd need to go back and find the links.

(20-03-2016 16:51 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(20-03-2016 09:04 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  You can't have it both ways.

Well you can, I'm sure the rest of the world has trade links with Europe, without being in Europe, to me that's a no brainer.

If you think we'll be able to restrict imports to protect our industries, and still expect unrestricted trade the other way, you need to get a reality check.

(20-03-2016 16:51 )wackawoo Wrote:  

Quote:Ah, a conspiracy theory I knew we were missing something from this thread.

Who is being blackmailed? And how?

You'd need to go back and find the links.

No I don't. You made the claim, you provide some evidence.

in light of France and Belguim keeping each other in the dark ,where is the reality of a united EU making us more safe??
RIP all those taken by sickos.

(23-03-2016 09:06 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  If you think we'll be able to restrict imports to protect our industries, and still expect unrestricted trade the other way, you need to get a reality check.

Where did I say anything about restricting imports? Or are you having a debate with yourself and claiming it's me?

It's simple, america, china, tiawan, Japan etc, ALL trade with Europe, and I'm pretty sure it will be a two way gig - I'm sure plenty of the ol' wine will be a bought from France all around the world; why then would Britian be any different? Is not even part of mainland Europe it's seperated by a sea, it might be on the same tectonic plate, but so is india and china. Britian is a vastly different place to mainland Europe in it's culture, style, mindset.

I never said anything about protecting industry, my whole point has been, why can't the trade that is going on now, go on in or out of Europe? If company a from Britian is buying product b Fance and c from Germany buying d from the UK, why would this suddenly stop out of Europe?

To me this seem to be the most obvious question, so obvious it's painfull. It's already been suggested that if trade stayed the same, and britian was out, then she would indeed be better off finantially. Nobody, including you, has given any good reason why trade would fall apart; unless France and Germany decided to put that much costums, import tax on our prodcuts or charge that much for them that it would make it finantially cheaper to buy elsewhere, and that is the black mail i have ben speaking of.

We used to trade before 1971 or so, in fact there was a point we were world leaders without being in europe. When did we become the critically dependant on other countries? For our very survival if a lot would be to believed.

(20-03-2016 16:51 )wackawoo Wrote:  No I don't. You made the claim, you provide some evidence.

I did, I posted some links aways back, I told you go look. I'm too lazy, you want to know the information you look for it.

Bank of England's Financial Policy Committee warn against "uncertainty" caused by Brexit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu...m-35918471

import export will be determined by price/quality..nothing else..perhaps we can start making things again? instead of importing a load of old shit that fucking self destructs as the warranty runs out??