worst ever England football eleven

(18-08-2009 15:30 )astonv1 Wrote:  Whilst I agree with a lot of what u guys are saying I think ur being a tad harsh on some players who played only once or twice for us thus not ever getting a full crack at being really shite for England.

I've come to the conclusion that astonv1 is completely right about this. Players should not be selected for the worst England side ever unless they have had a fair chance at international level. I confess with my team I was guilty too of picking players as worst ever when they had not really had much of a chance to prove it (or not). I suggest that we should set a reasonable qualification on this matter, such as a minimum of 6 international caps, and see what people can come up with then.

As a Palace fan (hence the username) I have to come to Geoff Thomas' defence, as clearly no-one else will.
Everyone remembers him for that miss against France in 1992, which even I have to admit was a shocker. But Geoff never played in a losing England team (he won nine caps, most of which were in friendlies). The main problem at the time was that the best England midfielder of that generation (Gazza) was out with his busted knee, so anyone coming into the team was always going to be compared unfavourably to him. Geoff played the kind of role that Gareth Barry does in the present day team, to great effect for Palace in the early 90s.
He also recovered from leukaemia a few years back and rode the Tour de France route to raise money for leukaemia research. So he's an all-time hero at Selhurst Park, and doesn't deserve to be in any worst XI.

On the subject of the actual team, can I nominate David Batty as the right-back? Graham Taylor played him there in Euro 92 against Sweden, a game in which we lost 2-1 and were knocked out of the tournament.
Terry Fenwick has to be in there as well.

(29-08-2009 16:25 )eagle_si Wrote:  On the subject of the actual team, can I nominate David Batty as the right-back? Graham Taylor played him there in Euro 92 against Sweden, a game in which we lost 2-1 and were knocked out of the tournament.
Terry Fenwick has to be in there as well.

No I'm sorry, that nomination can't be allowed. We're only looking now for candidates with at least 6 caps and David Batty did not play for England at right back 6 times.

I salute Geoff Thomas for his fund raising work.

I see nobody's attempted the challenge of naming a worst ever England team of players with at least 6 caps, so I thought I'd make some kind of effort at least. To start with I think the midfield picks itself: Tony Daley, Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas, Andy Sinton. I'm also confident of Paul Robinson claiming the goalkeeping position. Alan Smith (the Arsenal one) and Andrew Cole can play up front, leaving just the defence. Mike Duxbury claims the right back spot and Phil Neville the left, which only leaves the centre backs which I am stuck on. Anyone going to offer me some poor quality England central defenders to complete my England nightmare XI?

If Razor Ruddock got more than 6 you can stick him in there

(11-09-2009 18:39 )perana68 Wrote:  If Razor Ruddock got more than 6 you can stick him in there

No, only 1 cap for Ruddock.

(10-08-2009 20:46 )alexxxi Wrote:  carson, scales, unsworth, southgate, hinchcliffe, Stuart Ripley, carlton palmer, jason wilcox, steve froggat, michael ricketts, andy cole

With a couple of exceptions, 'Alexxxi''s a strong challenger, with a truly horrible selection.

Can't agree with David Nugent (a popular pick). He was about the 9th choice striker at the time, just a bizarre set of circumstances got him into the squad. He was in form and in his only 20 minutes of international football, scored. Doesn't matter how, or who it was against. On a pro-rata basis, his stats are brilliant + he performed very well. Would I let him near the team bus at the moment? Would I boll*cks.

Steve Bull scored against Scotland at Hampden. This alone should exonerate him from any such list.

Chris Powell - that was a hilarious choice from the stupid Swede. There was someone from Nottingham Forest got into one squad a few years back. I'd never heard of him & not too surprisingly can't remember his name now either. Centre-half if memory serves.

(12-09-2009 01:09 )moron50 Wrote:  

(10-08-2009 20:46 )alexxxi Wrote:  carson, scales, unsworth, southgate, hinchcliffe, Stuart Ripley, carlton palmer, jason wilcox, steve froggat, michael ricketts, andy cole

According to official stats no Steve Froggat ever played for England.

(11-09-2009 18:32 )pounder Wrote:  Tony Daley, Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas, Andy Sinton. I'm also confident of Paul Robinson claiming the goalkeeping position. Alan Smith (the Arsenal one) and Andrew Cole can play up front, leaving just the defence. Mike Duxbury claims the right back spot and Phil Neville the left, which only leaves the centre backs which I am stuck on. Anyone going to offer me some poor quality England central defenders to complete my England nightmare XI?

I offer you Terry Fenwick and Joleon Lescott. With those 2 your team is now complete.