Mainstream TV nudity vs babeshow nudity

(28-09-2011 21:49 )eccles Wrote:  9:00-10:00 Sky Arts 1 today, "Jeff Coons A Man of Trust" (contains adult themes). I havent seen it, but Jeff Coons is the artist who married Italian/Hungarian porn star Ilona Staller, better known as la Cicciolina and produced a sculpture of them having anal sex, as well as a giant ceramic puppy. No idea how rude the content is, but it would be difficult to discuss his work (I hesitate to call it Art) without covering the sex.

Eccles i tell you mate the word HYPOCRISY comes springing to mind, again its one rule for one, and one rule for another, and like all of us we're completely sick of it
I mean 9-10pm, and the babe channels after 10pm can get there tits out I just don't get it mate i really don't.

Watching music channel AKA (Sky 370) XXX AKA show. Its late night, runs for an hour and viewers select music vids by SMS. The vids are a bit ruder than usual, showtime varies but it is never earlier than midnight. Most of the tracks are rubbish to be honest and it means sitting through contributions by obnoxious rappers who make my fists itch, its very repetitive, but there are a few tasty plums in there. The track on right now has about 4 women whispering "can you see the sweat dripping from my body" while a woman in bra and pants pole dances. An earlier track had about a dozen young women at a party gradually going topless, snogging each other and occasionally holding each others breasts. Another had 3 women in skimpy tiger print knickers sucking lollies suggestively, rubbing lollies near their crotches and planty of close ups.

All editorially justifies of course, but some of it would be a clear breach of the rules for babe channels.

Then there are 12 minutes of adverts per hour for income generation, including ads from Debenhams.

(29-09-2011 02:50 )eccles Wrote:  Watching music channel AKA (Sky 370) XXX AKA show. Its late night, runs for an hour and viewers select music vids by SMS. The vids are a bit ruder than usual, showtime varies but it is never earlier than midnight. Most of the tracks are rubbish to be honest and it means sitting through contributions by obnoxious rappers who make my fists itch, its very repetitive, but there are a few tasty plums in there. The track on right now has about 4 women whispering "can you see the sweat dripping from my body" while a woman in bra and pants pole dances. An earlier track had about a dozen young women at a party gradually going topless, snogging each other and occasionally holding each others breasts. Another had 3 women in skimpy tiger print knickers sucking lollies suggestively, rubbing lollies near their crotches and planty of close ups.

All editorially justifies of course, but some of it would be a clear breach of the rules for babe channels.

Then there are 12 minutes of adverts per hour for income generation, including ads from Debenhams.

I no Eccles I saw this channel as well, as you said this would be in clear breach of the rules, and yet it's ok to put this material on a music channel? The more and more I try and understand this, the more bizarre it gets, I'm looking at the last video now, and there's woman touching each others boobs, a lot of grinding, and this is not even a bloody Adult channel Something somehow has got to he done about this Hypercritical Bollocks that Ofcom are doing, enough is enough

Just watched an interesting programme on BBC4 called "Dear Censor: a secret archive" About how one mans personal prejudices can effect what gets censored or not, regardless of the guidelines governing the material.

Sounds very similar to what Ofcom are getting away with today. Letting there own individual prejudices against the babe channels reflect on the restrictions they put in place.

Not sure if this is the right place to post this comment?

In the last hour I've seen a heavy metal song on one of the Sky rock music channels that has the f word sung more than Abba sing Honey Honey in their early hit single.

On one of the Sky adult film channels with a fave babe of these forums graphically talk about another girl taking it up the a*se and her then s*cking the a*se juices of the other girls off the guys c*ck with lots more f words included.

All before 10.30pm, yet none of the girls on any of the babe channels including the cellcast channels dare hardly even say tits before 3am if at all on air because of incurring the wrath off Ofcom and a complaint!

Talk about inconstancies across channels on rules on adult language, whether they be babe channels or otherwise.

Bet no one complains about the rock song with all the f words!

(29-09-2011 23:12 )aceman65 Wrote:  Just watched an interesting programme on BBC4 called "Dear Censor: a secret archive" About how one mans personal prejudices can effect what gets censored or not, regardless of the guidelines governing the material.

Sounds very similar to what Ofcom are getting away with today. Letting there own individual prejudices against the babe channels reflect on the restrictions they put in place.

Yep great post, you're spot on, ofcom are very clever in the way they word or rephrase a particular section in the rules and Regs to suit there needs, and forget to think of the needs of others I.E. The public, and our rights. Those overpaid beaurocratic TWATS

(29-09-2011 23:12 )aceman65 Wrote:  Just watched an interesting programme on BBC4 called "Dear Censor: a secret archive" About how one mans personal prejudices can effect what gets censored or not, regardless of the guidelines governing the material.

Sounds very similar to what Ofcom are getting away with today. Letting there own individual prejudices against the babe channels reflect on the restrictions they put in place.

Catching up on it now. James Ferman allowed a lot, but had a thing about martial arts weapons, and they just showed a banned scene from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles where a string of sausages were used like nunchucks. Probably not what most people would think of if "banned sausage scene" were mentioned.

Would have caught up earlier, but Victoria Coren was on some sort of quiz show, one team were cunning linguists. One answer was "One nob". Should have taped her saying that. (Its a cribbage move apparently).

(30-09-2011 01:21 )eccles Wrote:  Catching up on it now. James Ferman allowed a lot, but had a thing about martial arts weapons, and they just showed a banned scene from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles where a string of sausages were used like nunchucks. Probably not what most people would think of if "banned sausage scene" were mentioned.

Would have caught up earlier, but Victoria Coren was on some sort of quiz show, one team were cunning linguists. One answer was "One nob". Should have taped her saying that. (Its a cribbage move apparently).

Like I said, interesting programme. It was ironic though, that after he left the BBFC, all the scenes he banned were reinstated after being challenged. As not one of them were breaking any of the guidelines.

So if Ofcom are guilty of the same practice, then surely they could be challenged that if the content is allowed to be shown by one media group, but banned for another. Then there guilty of discrimination by giving one media group an unfair advantage over the other.

If your allowed to have full nudity and bad language after the watershed under the current rules on a free to view channel. Then the same rules should apply to all channels. It's unfair business practice to give an advantage to one and not the other.

The Body In Balance channel on Sky 275 (the yoga channel that shows Lovers Guide a few times a week) has a series starting Friday called "Lets Talk Sex". Thats 10:30 Friday Sky channel 275.

"The grown up sex and relationship talk show. Advice and debate on topical issues surrounding sexual health, sex education and relationships. This week focuses on sexual positions." says the info. Dont know if its just talk or, er, more interesting, but they made a point of getting a write up in the papers.

(07-10-2011 00:04 )eccles Wrote:  The Body In Balance channel on Sky 275 (the yoga channel that shows Lovers Guide a few times a week) has a series starting Friday called "Lets Talk Sex". Thats 10:30 Friday Sky channel 275.

"The grown up sex and relationship talk show. Advice and debate on topical issues surrounding sexual health, sex education and relationships. This week focuses on sexual positions." says the info. Dont know if its just talk or, er, more interesting, but they made a point of getting a write up in the papers.

If you ask me they should show sexy sports clips (you know the ones they show on German Channel DFS) after 11PM, then that would make this otherwise pish channel any good