Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it?

Jeane Freeman laid out the vaccination programme for us yesterday. They're starting with the most vulnerable and healthcare workers first with the aim of having everyone over 18 vaccinated by Spring.
And they're bringing in the army to help with the logistics.

So our government are weighing up, with how many & for how long we will be able to do Xmas. The bottom line is that more mixing indoors with lead to more deaths. I'm hoping that if I can get through this, that I've more Christmases to come & I can do without it for a year. The only people who I would say should be exempt are the terminally ill. Kids will get over it & adults are making them the excuse.
But I except that they must try to offer a few days & just hope that most will comply. I'm surprised that there's been no mention of New Years Eve & New Years Day. Many workplaces shutdown through the whole period. Xmas rolls through into New Year with the potential of 10+ days of partying. Like most of these restriction, they rely on compliance as they cannot be policed.

^Not ALL businesses shut down for Xmas.

Retail will be working over Christmas, and I expect I will be working this year given the situation the shop I work in, is in, I will most likely have just Christmas Day off and working Boxing Day and also New Years' Day.
And given the state of the high Street as it is at present most stores will be working hard to make enough money from this Christmas to ensure survival in 2021, but given the number of job losses due to the pandemic, and the number of businesses lost on the high street this year, I would not be surprised if there are more famous names missing on the high street before the end of 2020, with Peacocks and Jaeger being the latest to call in administrators.

(22-11-2020 23:44 )Boomerangutangangbang Wrote:  So our government are weighing up, with how many & for how long we will be able to do Xmas. The bottom line is that more mixing indoors with lead to more deaths. I'm hoping that if I can get through this, that I've more Christmases to come & I can do without it for a year. The only people who I would say should be exempt are the terminally ill. Kids will get over it & adults are making them the excuse.
But I except that they must try to offer a few days & just hope that most will comply. I'm surprised that there's been no mention of New Years Eve & New Years Day. Many workplaces shutdown through the whole period. Xmas rolls through into New Year with the potential of 10+ days of partying. Like most of these restriction, they rely on compliance as they cannot be policed.

We will have to find out what exactly is going to happen, when Johnson makes statement ot the Commons today I think and I do think the tiered restrictions we were in before the lockdown are going to to be pushed further to the limit.
i cannot see how you can juggle restrictions with a slight easing for Christmas then restoring the restrictions early January to the end of January,, as we are led to believe, and as I said before, the economy cannot sustain that kind of situation for next very much longer there has to be a point where the exit strategy has to be clear and precise and FINAL.

And more to the point, I think to rely on the vaccine being effective over the Christmas period may not be enough, and at some point we will have to accept this unseen enemy may never be fully defeated, and it may take several years to even reach a full eradication, and in that time, WE as species,, then have to learn to adapt to living with it in such a balanced way as possible where we can have day to day living as far as normal as possible, but with some adaptations of restrictions that allow us to live normally.
Some of us probably may even be carriers of the virus with out realising it, if it evolves to a point where it can lay dormant in our immune systems for many years before rearing it's head many years after contracting it.

As far as Christmas 2020 goes, we may as well enjoy it in the best way possible, but I certainly do think it will be far different than the Christmasses we have known and I think the reality is we ALL have to accept that the possibilty of the inevitable rise in cases over the Christmas period, so what ever Johnson announces, I hope all of us will respond by complying to the measures announced with the hope that we can push further down the road to that final exit strategy in 2021 at some point.

Oxford Vaccine looks like a game changer

the 70% effective headline is deceiveing im sure the media have shares in Pfizer

When taken as a half dose then a 2nd full dose it effective rate went to 90%

its cheaper doesnt need to be deep freezed and if this is the case that only need a half dose at forst means the stuff the UK has bought so far would prob do us all

^It's also much cheaper to produce (5x) than the vaccines announced so far which is good news for poorer countries.

I'd support this being given as part of the foreign aid budget rather than just throwing cash into a bottomless pit

Sports fans allowed back into stadiums after lockdown

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/...f-lockdown

N I Assembly is issuing a £200 pre - paid card for all families to spend with local businesses

Russian says their new Sputnik V vaccine is going to be less than $10 a dose.
It's supposed to be over 91% successful in stopping the virus.

Well it’s going to kick off again between Andy Burnham & the government after the government minister doing the media rounds today basically said it’s Andy Burnham’s fault for what’s happened over the past few weeks. Yet before that he said “I’m not blaming Andy Burnham”

Definately will if Manchester stays in tier 3