Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

What a bloody fiasco this has turned out to be, the politicians are generally all has bad has each other, i wouldn't trust any of them as far as i could throw them .

The great man himself, Bill Shankly said "if you can't make decisions in this game, or in life, you are a bloody menace and you would be better to go off and be a MP then".
He had the right opinion about MP's if you ask me .

The fundamental fact is that when you have a serial liar as PM all trust is lost between parties. That makes the current situation worse.

Operation Yellowhammer has been stepped down.

It's cost about £100 million

^ Money that could have paid for some nurses, more police, or something else worthwhile, rather than this Tory party project.

(28-10-2019 20:11 )SecretAgent Wrote:  The fundamental fact is that when you have a serial liar as PM all trust is lost between parties. That makes the current situation worse.

I have to say that through this mess how many MP's have said they wanted to honour the 2016 result and actually MEANT it?

Maybe the answer is staring us in the face.

We don't leave OR remain -- we just lurch from one 3 month extension to another for the next 100 years.

That seems fair to both the 48% and the 52%. We would be forever Brexiting, but we'd never actually Brexit.

The extensions would just be issued by habit and convention until they just become another one of those quaint, ceremonial traditions like the Trooping of the Colour or the Ceremony of the Keys. Eventually, it'll be wrapped up in its own mythology: Britain must always be Brexiting; only when the last raven has left the Tower of London and flown to Brussels, will we actually Brexit.

(28-10-2019 20:46 )babelover48 Wrote:  

(28-10-2019 20:11 )SecretAgent Wrote:  The fundamental fact is that when you have a serial liar as PM all trust is lost between parties. That makes the current situation worse.

I have to say that through this mess how many MP's have said they wanted to honour the 2016 result and actually MEANT it?

You mean like the Brexiteers who said the EU would be begging for a deal and that it would all be hunky dory and then went full nationalistic demanding no deal. Or the MP who went to the DUP Conference last year and said no Conservative PM would ever agree a deal which involved checks for goods moving between NI and the mainland (that was Boris by the way)

I believe most MP's would support a deal IF it does not damage the integrity of the Union AND did not condemn us to economic damage. Unfortunately the lies that the Leave campaign spouted in 2016 were just that LIES

It doesn't matter whether they were for leave or remain in 2016, my point was about the here and now, how many of those MP's in the House of Commons - putting their party status aside for one moment b- have stood up in the House of Commons and have said over the last 3 or so years this has dragged on and have declared they wanted to honour the 2016 result?

Another cost of Brexit...
The mint had coined thousands of 50p's with Brexit and dated 31st Oct 2019.
They are to be melted down.

What date will they have on them now & did any of the 31st March ones get into circulation?

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Tories asking Brexit Party "Not to stand against them" typical Boris I wonder?
That's like Trump asking Congress not to impeach him...