Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(11-09-2019 18:57 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Have You Seen These Men?

Police would like to speak to these individuals regarding a sophisticated scam targeting elderly residents of the Balmoral area.

When I see how many of May's administration got gongs in her resignation honours, god knows how many gongs Boris will give himself and his administration If Cummings gets a bloody knighthood the upper chamber should be afraid, very afraid

(12-09-2019 06:45 )babelover48 Wrote:  HM has been lied to, the country, has been lied to by Johnson - he has to go!! what we need to realise very quickly, is that that he is dragging this country down an abyss from which we may never recover or escape for many years and the whole HOC should hang it's head in shame for being unable to deliver what the people wanted. We should have been consulted (and possibly voted for) every step of the way through this quagmire instead of allowing Parliament to deal with it for us.

Why should the HOC hang its head in shame from trying to prevent what in is the yellowhammer document from coming a reality?

(12-09-2019 06:55 )babelover48 Wrote:  When I see how many of May's administration got gongs in her resignation honours, god knows how many gongs Boris will give himself and his administration If Cummings gets a bloody knighthood the upper chamber should be afraid, very afraid

Knights don't go into the House of Lords, Lords do

BORIS IS THE BOY......UK will be great again, if you dont like it book a one way ryan air....

^ I blame the TV programme 'Have I got news for you'.
They brought a biggotted buffoon to the publics notice.

He's gone from a programme joke to a joke PM... (NOT MY PM)

https://youtu.be/xUDEpqyJ-_w

Norm My PM!!

It occurs to me that the Government was absolutely committed to retaining the No Deal threat, but not for the reasons it claimed.

They said they needed No Deal on the table to give them a credible negotiating position with the EU. But what if that's not true? What if they knew perfectly well that there is only one deal forthcoming from the EU and it is some minor variation of the deal that May already negotiated?

In that case, they needed No Deal on the table, but not as a threat to the EU. They needed it as a threat to Parliament and - by extension - as a threat to all of us.

What if their intention all along was to bring us to the brink of a crash-out and then put a 'Boris Deal' to a vote in Parliament (the Boris Deal being just the May Deal with a couple of apostrophes changed)? Boris would then have been in a no-lose position. EITHER Parliament votes for his deal -- which is conceivable, as they would have spent months warning of No Deal armageddon -- OR they vote against it. But in that case, Parliament -- not Johnson -- would own the consequences of the crash-out. The Government's position would then have been: you wanted a deal; we brought you a deal; you voted against it; so this is now all your fault.

In this scenario, the proroguing of Parliament was just a ploy to prevent the opposition from passing any bill that could take No Deal off the table. Their miscalculation was the fact that this was such a breathtaking over-reach by the Government that it actually galvanised the opposition, the Speaker and moderate Tories so much that they managed to pass the Benn Bill in the limited window that they had available.

So this is all now moot and theoretical, because the plan didn't work. But what if it's true? Could we really have a Government willing to hold its own Parliament and people to ransom, just to secure its next election? I honestly think we do.

(12-09-2019 18:46 )babelover48 Wrote:  Norm My PM!!

The guy from Cheers?

Norman Wisdom?

Norman Greenbaum?

Boris has categorically denied lying to The Queen.

Of course he could be lying...... about not lying.......

Fuck, my head's starting to hurt now

What is a freudian slip Alex ?

(12-09-2019 22:37 )Tumble_Drier Wrote:  

(12-09-2019 18:46 )babelover48 Wrote:  Norm My PM!!

The guy from Cheers?

Norman Wisdom?

Norman Greenbaum?

I meant not!!