Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

^ Humour us - who do you think should lead the Conservatives and what deal do you believe they could obtain for the UK which would get support in Parliament?

No rants please - lets see what productive ideas you have

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-eu-jap...KKBN1OB1EN

(12-12-2018 23:53 )terence Wrote:  https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-eu-jap...KKBN1OB1EN

Oh good we’ll be in it for a few weeks at least

Of course if we have the Brexiteers desired hard Brexit we’ll be at a disadvantage with the EU and I presume Honda cars made here for export to the EU will be subject to WTO tariffs whereas those made in Japan won’t be. Hope all those Brexit voters working for Honda & Nissan understand the dangers to their jobs.

Maybe the Monty Python team can come in and take over Brexit, they couldnt be any worse than the clowns doing it now

(12-12-2018 23:22 )SecretAgent Wrote:  ^ Humour us - who do you think should lead the Conservatives and what deal do you believe they could obtain for the UK which would get support in Parliament?

No rants please - lets see what productive ideas you have

Boris or David Davis...would save us £39bn

Do not waste your time, they are fanatics and will stand for nothing bad being said about their beloved EU. They are just waiting for Herr Junker to take them to the promised land of Schengen, a place without borders where everybody lives in perfect harmony and bad things never happen, a place where a group of wise men see all and make decisions in the peasants (i mean the peoples) best interests often without the need to inform them but that is only because they do not want them to worry about things they don't really understand. Where they will always be safe and can sleep soundly in their beds at night thanks to the EU army, and if anybody says different then that same army will be there to take them away until a cure can be found for their anti EU illness. Such a utopia a brexiteer can only dream about finding.

^ I suppose I'm not surprised that a genuine attempt to get you to articulate productive views as a brexiteer on who should lead the Conservative party and what deal they would achieve that would get the support of Parliament is responded to by you with another conspiracy theory led diatribe.

The major political parties are split, parliament is split and the country is split yet Brexiteers seem to think that democracy ended in June 2016 with the Leave vote.

I'll leave you to your conspiracy theories and wish you a good Xmas in your alternative reality world

gotta laugh old mogg think 62% win is not good enough

Maybe he wants to keep running it again and again till they get the right result

Shes won 3 times to win the election to become PM, then kept her job in a General election and won the Vote of no confidence

(13-12-2018 11:11 )SecretAgent Wrote:  ^ I suppose I'm not surprised that a genuine attempt to get you to articulate productive views as a brexiteer on who should lead the Conservative party and what deal they would achieve that would get the support of Parliament is responded to by you with another conspiracy theory led diatribe.

The major political parties are split, parliament is split and the country is split yet Brexiteers seem to think that democracy ended in June 2016 with the Leave vote.

I'll leave you to your conspiracy theories and wish you a good Xmas in your alternative reality world

Politicians and pundits talk about the Brexit people voted for like there is some magic deal that will satisfy everybody. Looking at the politicans, take the channel 4 debate: James Cleverly supports May's deal, Rees Mogg vehemently opposes it and that plays out across the Tory party. Looking at pundits, if anyone here watches The Pledge on Sky News Nick Ferrari likes the deal, Carole Malone hates it.

This is just the Brexiteers on the right, if you could get a deal that would bring them together are we seriously suggesting it would satisfy the millions of leave voters from Labour, Lib Dems, SNP & Greens without whom Leave would have lost?

As the saying goes the Devil is in the detail, whether we leave is not the important question, how we leave is and there is no consesus, no will of the people for how we leave. You can't even get two Brexiteers in a debate or two Brexiteers on a panel show to agree, yet we are supposed to believe that 17.4 million can?

(13-12-2018 01:09 )lancealot790 Wrote:  Do not waste your time, they are fanatics and will stand for nothing bad being said about their beloved EU. They are just waiting for Herr Junker to take them to the promised land of Schengen, a place without borders where everybody lives in perfect harmony and bad things never happen, a place where a group of wise men see all and make decisions in the peasants (i mean the peoples) best interests often without the need to inform them but that is only because they do not want them to worry about things they don't really understand. Where they will always be safe and can sleep soundly in their beds at night thanks to the EU army, and if anybody says different then that same army will be there to take them away until a cure can be found for their anti EU illness. Such a utopia a brexiteer can only dream about finding.

Didn't take long, did it. For the paranoia to surface.
How long before you decide the 'traitors' need brought into line by force.

If this is post-brexit Britain, roll on the 2nd Independence referendum.