Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

Well May should never appointed him if he didn't have faith and show how much the Govt wasted a 2 year negotiating cycle Also, a Perfect example of an MP who knows fuck all but can claim expenses!! hope there is an expenses scandal that catches him out!!

^ You mean like freeloader Farage milking the system over the years?

^Farage doesn't even knowhow to milk a cow does he?

(15-11-2018 13:23 )babelover48 Wrote:  ^Farage doesn't even knowhow to milk a cow does he?

He knew how to con you into voting for Brexit though didn't he?

That means a General election is looming very large - is it not?

(15-11-2018 13:31 )babelover48 Wrote:  That means a General election is looming very large - is it not?

and the options are 3 or more options which are equally undesirable to me lol

Id plump for a military coup put the Queen in charge. with larry the cat as PM

Listening to the PMQ's on the Withdrawal Agreement (where we don't actually withdrawal) & listening to MP's an all sides is like listening to 2 bald men fighting over a hairbrush it's laughable.Theresa lying through her gritted teeth about ending freedom of movement,bringing back our laws,setting free trade-deals yadayayada.But the Withdrawal Agreement says something different where visa free travel throughout the EU continues (not an end of FOM),we'll still be under jurastiction of the ECJ, & we'll be locked into the Customs Union where we cannot leave until the EU agrees to let us leave (which they won't).So when Labour talk about agreeing to a deal that meets their six mythical tests the same six tests that Labour could never negotiate themselves with the EU makes them just as incompetent as a Remain led Tory party.

Tory MP Nick Boles (a remainer) floated the idea a month or two ago where he said we leave the EU in March 2019 into a temporary Norway deal whilst negotiating (& providing the infrastructure) for an eventual Canada style deal makes sense to me (& would be better than no-deal).

With the political mess of Brexit & how divided the country is what possible sense would a 2nd/people's vote be exactly other than to a)ignore a democratic vote telling the citizens of this country to vote again because incompetent politicians & civil servants cannot negotiate anything meaningful with the EU.And b) tell other countries around the world that we are prepared to tuck-tail & remain shackled to the EU against our wishes (& having the temerity to vote Leave).

And for all those advocating a People's Vote (particularly MP's) what in theory happens if (shock horror) we vote leave again.Would a second leave vote mean Hard Brexit be implemented this time around & that those staunch remaining MP's will back it or does it mean negotiating another meaningless softer Brexit.As I say it solves nothing.

Tories have always historically been ruthless in getting rid of their PM's & they'll need to be with May (she'll be gone by Sunday)& take that useless fucker Philip Hammond with her.And where's wally (Michael Gove) the staunch Brexiteer.

^^^ obv a 2nd ref would be a 3 Answer question

NO Deal we crash out

The deal thats on the table

and Tear up article 50

and BE LEGALLY BINDING THIS TIME !!!

Its time politicians of all political party's were held criminally accountable for their actions. So many lives have been and are being lost by politicians fethering themselves and their party's nests while the poorest and most vulnerable people in the country are left to their own devises. It has to stop.