US Election & Presidency

(16-02-2017 19:58 )babelover48 Wrote:  but when you think even thought they were cold blooded murders and the world is probably less safe than it was when they were around alive at least they aren't around to cause any further damage on the world stage or to their own people in both Hussein's and Gadaffi's cases

They were, but how they went about it was wrong, and I don't think the place is safer without them, infact, removing Hussien destabalised the middle east into the clusterfuck it is today, the rest only radicalised people.

Bringing them to trail would have been better.

There was no suce movements like ISIS before the west when in, not even against Russian when they were in Afganistan.

The British put Hessien there and like it or nothe kept the place stable.

^Your long winded response does nothing for you. You are an idiot.

(16-02-2017 19:52 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(16-02-2017 14:56 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Killing Bin Laden, removing Colnel Ghadaffi, getting Iran deal, cuba

The killing of Bin Laden and the treatment of Ghadaffi, were two of the most brutal cold blooded murders I've eve been ashamed to have heard and witness. Both a rally call for extremists.

Special forces troops shooting an unarmed man in cold blood and the other being publically lynched and it being shown of evening news where just appaling.

People should be ashamed of that not boast about it being a legacy.

They should have been brought to lawful trial and not slaughtered or killed in kangaroo courts like Hussain was.

Your reply suggests you support the 9/11 attack.

well, that was fuckin mental.

(16-02-2017 19:37 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(16-02-2017 15:24 )SecretAgent Wrote:  ^ You can add to that
- rescuing the US car industry when he inherited the mess of the financial crisis.
- introducing the Affordable Care Act
- reformed Wall St to protect against another financial crash
- cut the unemployment rate from 10% to less than 5%
- ended the war in Iraq
- reversed Bush era torture policies
Etc etc etc
Wackawoo you don't seem to be able to get past the fact that Obama is black. Is that a problem for you?

Oh look, another thats trying to woft the race card. Apparantly in the last couple of pages I have turned into a racist, Nazi republican, I'm quite impressed at that sudden and extreme change in my belief system.

I raise it so much becasue it's been raise so many many times before, and what ever might want to say, DOES contribute greatly to how people react to him. Personally, any president who goes to a different country and tell them to vote a certian way or 'they will go to the back of the queue', to be very arrogant, whatever colour they are.

You make a list, and what's on that list is very good, nothing outstanding, but very good. But look at some of the things on your list.

US people STILL have to pay, and many will be dying since they cannot afford good medical insurance. It's not like he introduced that NHS and it's not like it's whole heartidly welcomed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Pr...ic_opinion

From what I remember domestic employment factored quite large in Trump campaign and victory.

You say he ended the war in Iraq, American troops are still and still dying and he increase the US military presence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...30d1e81f17

Torture shouldn't even be an issue.

In short, it's good but by no means perfect. He also seems to be more popular abroad then with actual Americans.

Let lets get one thing straight here. I have never once said he's done a bad job. he's been a good solid president, but that's it, he is not the Messiah that's walks amounst us as some would have use believe.

Siena College Research Institute rates him as the 15th best president, American Political Science Association 18th (both can be reviewed upwards)

In addition, aproval ratings vary, so I'm not entirely sure what they show. It's more a long term legacy that you need to know.

Quote:According to the Gallup Organization, Obama began his presidency with a 68% approval rating[414] before gradually declining for the rest of the year, and eventually bottoming out at 41% in August 2010,[415] a trend similar to Ronald Reagan's and Bill Clinton's first years in office.[416] He experienced a small poll bounce shortly after the death of Osama bin Laden on May 2, 2011. This bounce lasted until around June 2011, when his approval numbers dropped back to where they were previously.[417][418] His approval ratings rebounded around the same time as his reelection in 2012, with polls showing an average job approval of 52% shortly after his second inauguration.[419] Despite him dropping to 39% in his approval ratings in late-2013 due to the ACA roll-out, he has climbed to 50% in late January 2015 according to Gallup.

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You exaggerate all the time. No one has called him the Messiah except the likes of you. Considering the catastrophic state of the world after Bush was done and considering the Senate would not work with him he actually got a lot done.

did he say they were going to attack mosul in 4 weeks

(16-02-2017 20:10 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  Your long winded response does nothing for you. You are an idiot.

There's irony, I was only thinking a few moments ago I never thought I'd see a poster that made munch and silent majoritys snipes and snides seem intelligent.

Go, you, go you

(16-02-2017 20:12 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  Your reply suggests you support the 9/11 attack.

This, Nazi, republican, rascist white supremicist supports an attack by visually ethic muslims on mainly white people?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh, pee

(16-02-2017 20:17 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  You exaggerate all the time. No one has called him the Messiah except the likes of you. Considering the catastrophic state of the world after Bush was done and considering the Senate would not work with him he actually got a lot done.

You lie again, I never said they did, I said you'd think.

The world was coiming out of a bad recission caused by greedy property developers, he also had to deal with a lot more shit than Obama, aftermath of 9/11, said recession, hurrican Katrina, Iraq war.

I also said Obama did a good job.

Trump inherited a mess and he will fix it. Baaaaaa ha