US Election & Presidency

(10-02-2017 21:37 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  You can't rule by executive order alone. A country is not the same as a private company.

The vast majority of Presidents make use of executive orders, its fully outlined in the constitution. Not many previous Presidents are accused of tyranny though. Some people seem to have lost all sense of perspective when it comes to Trump.

Your not paying much attention to what is going on? Are you getting the news from fox on its own?

Trump won an election. He's enacting what he promised his many millions of supporters he would do. In four years he'll have to face the music, good or bad. He's not a tyrant. We may not agree with him but that's life in a democracy, no matter what The Guardian or The BBC would have us believe.

(10-02-2017 19:50 )skully Wrote:  ^ Exactly. The wording of it and all of this anti Islam/Muslim rhetoric before, during and after he was elected is the problem.

The fact is, he and his minions (and his master Bannon) are tarring an entire religion with blame for a relatively small radical element (relatively speaking), who have bastardized parts of the religion for their own ends. Now considering the problem they have with racists and white supremacists in America, who use the bible as a tool for their hate, it's more than a little hypocritical.

Stats and facts prove that this is an overreaction.

Has it not occured to you that all the hysteria against Trump as seen on this thread has done nothing but make him dig his heals in and go more extreme?

This was a 90 suspention for people born in only 7 of the 50 odd Islamic countries of the world.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT is the important bit and what happens after that nobody has no idea.

Also, what bit about 'you're right about islamaphobia and it's a shame' don't you people understand?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/other/tr...vi-BBxdHAL

Posted on the 29th of Jan

http://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.ph...pid1994639

Let me guess, you didn't click the link and listen to what HE has to say, and even if you did, lies, lies all is lies becasue it don't fit what we want to think of him.

From what I can see of it, Trump is wanting to attack Islamic extremist (which is about time) something all Muslims who are not extremist want.

He consitantly states it's againt radical Islam, but it's so much better to twist it into ALL islam. He states is difficult to know who is a radical or not, which for me is a perfectly fine statement. You have people born and brought up in the UK suddenly becoming radicalized and going to fight for ISIS.

Muslim people from all but 7 islamic are ABAOLUTELY FEE to apply for visas and travel to the US, but we never here about that do we?

People should be more concerned with Putin and heated discussions there.

^ the problem with your explanation is that two courts gave reasons why Trump hasn't got his ducks in a row. It has nothing to do with views on a forum.

(10-02-2017 21:48 )hops1 Wrote:  Trump won an election. He's enacting what he promised his many millions of supporters he would do. In four years he'll have to face the music, good or bad. He's not a tyrant. We may not agree with him but that's life in a democracy, no matter what The Guardian or The BBC would have us believe.

American courts don't agree with him and they are not part of any media agenda.

The (renowned liberal) court that has temporarily over turned Trumps travel ban has approximately 80% of its own rulings over turned by the US Supreme Court.

Trumps laws will be tested in the courts & by Congress. That's democracy. The fact that Trumps policies have already been challenged and overturned say to me that the US system is working quite well. Trump is not a dictator or tyrant, he's subject to the rule of law so all this hysteria is frankly completely over the top.

His reactions to these rulings is over the top. He is on the inside looking out not on the outside looking in as he tries to portray.

(10-02-2017 21:48 )wackawoo Wrote:  He consitantly states it's againt radical Islam, but it's so much better to twist it into ALL islam.

No, he actually wanted a complete Muslim ban. It was his advisers that told him it couldn't be done.

I completely agree with you. Trump's an idiot and a number of his policies are completely hokum. That doesn't make him a tyrant or anything like Hitler though as some have tried to suggest.