Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(23-05-2016 15:08 )babelover48 Wrote:  When & where was the German health worker reporting stuff?

I wished I'd have kept the link, but it was a fantastic first hand account from an hospital that had to deal with the immigration problem fron the front line so to speak.

It was quite difficult to find (mainly becasue i thought it was a German doctor) and i couldn't find the original but this is what I was talking about:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6147...king-point


Unsuprisingly BNP jumped on it:

http://bnp.org.uk/news/national/whistleb...rous-germa

They even link to a youtube clip about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOuXhW4txXY

Oh, removed.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-2017.html


No wonder Germay is desperate for the UK to stay in.

But aren't TB cases already being reported in London, and have been for a while now?

More than a little disgusted by the latest TV broadcast by the level campaign in which they make the patently absurd claim that only by leaving can we hope to save the NHS. Do they seriously imagine that people are such simpletons as to believe such garbage. What's left of any savings after replacing EU grants and farm subsidies will undoubtedly find its way into the pockets of the corporate fat cats given the history of this gov't. The amount Britain pays to the EU is a drop in the proverbial ocean compared to the NHS budget and tiny compared to what could be raised by making the wealthy pay their full share of tax. The NHS is struggling not because of the EU but a gov't ideologically driven to bring about underfunding and demoralisation as a prelude to privatisation. How dare the raving right now claim an interest in the NHS

UK spends about the same amount on Europe as it does on the NHS.

It really is quite staggering how the yes people see nothing but wonderous things about being in Europe, when in reality it's going to be swings and round abouts at best, good and bad on either side; it's only a matter of which has the better swings and which the better roundabouts.

All the money being spent on Europe can be plough right back into the UK, that being a good thing is a no brainer. Stoping the tide of immigrants, especially from East europe is bound to take pressure off the bennefits and NHS.

The only time Britian has really struggled in hundreds of years has been following wars, especially the WW's, and that was with messing in Europe.

(23-05-2016 15:49 )wackawoo Wrote:  It was quite difficult to find (mainly becasue i thought it was a German doctor) and i couldn't find the original but this is what I was talking about:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6147...king-point

I presume the Express are waiting until the last week of the campaign to tell us that Diana's Ghost would vote Leave if it could, that's about their level of credibility.

Hell, any story where we're supposed to believe the BNP as well as the Express is in the realms of pure drivel.

Quote:All the money being spent on Europe can be plough right back into the UK, that being a good thing is a no brainer. Stoping the tide of immigrants, especially from East europe is bound to take pressure off the bennefits and NHS.

This myth has already been debunked several times.

Not to mention that if immigration were somehow reduced to zero, then we would still face the exact same problems as Leave forecast will be caused by this mythical tide of arrivals. Population control has been a serious issue for decades, and blaming immigrants for making a bad problem worse does not mean it would be solved by their removal.

Britain paid into the EU in 2015 8.5 billion after the rebate https://fullfact.org/economy/our-eu-memb...5-million/

NHS budget for 2015 was 116.4 billion
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/thenhs/abou...rview.aspx

EU migrants contribute more in taxes than they take in
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/...-ucl-study

(23-05-2016 21:36 )Doddle Wrote:  Hell, any story where we're supposed to believe the BNP as well as the Express is in the realms of pure drivel. [

And you have research it independantly then?

(23-05-2016 21:40 )brummie Wrote:  Britain paid into the EU in 2015 8.5 billion after the rebate https://fullfact.org/economy/our-eu-memb...5-million/

NHS budget for 2015 was 116.4 billion
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/thenhs/abou...rview.aspx

EU migrants contribute more in taxes than they take in
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/...-ucl-study

Independent sites bare link one out.

Second link good.

Forget the last pro europe propaganda hog wash, that has appear on here before.

Scap on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu...m-36345750