Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

^ No trade embargoes, no tariff setting? No uncertainty for the pound whilst years of negotiating goes on to settle the best deal with each country? No cock-ups for career ambitious politicians along the way?

Canada's big ones took seven years and are still to be ratified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehens..._Agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

And where's this massive investment going to come from to re-start our manufacturing from virtually zilch?

It's ironic that the Thatcherites were largely responsible for selling off all the things we make, destroying all the industries we produce, and now want us to leave Europe... so we can all just open doors for each other in the ever-tedious service world.

(20-03-2016 08:54 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  

(19-03-2016 23:28 )admiral decker Wrote:  Thanks for the tip off. I will give those establishments a wide berth.

Don't you have your own personal chef, in the galley, anyway?

Well observed sir. But I am not at sea continuously.

Anyway after some delay I have in this poll voted IN.

(29-03-2016 20:16 )Doddle Wrote:  It's ironic that the Thatcherites were largely responsible for selling off all the things we make, destroying all the industries we produce, and now want us to leave Europe... so we can all just open doors for each other in the ever-tedious service world.

or we could continue to pay people for stuff no one wants??
India or China wouldnt pay to ship our coal out there...EU wont let us ude it...so what do we do dig it and put it in a pile?
lets get tata steel back for a quid and make quality again...not shit...
Sheffield stainless...that you can be proud of.

how can you be sure tata will sell it for 1 quid?

(29-03-2016 20:16 )Doddle Wrote:  It's ironic that the Thatcherites were largely responsible for selling off all the things we make, destroying all the industries we produce, and now want us to leave Europe... so we can all just open doors for each other in the ever-tedious service world.

Cheap coal from abroad killed the coal mines. Why pay a load more for coal mined by people on very good wages wanting more? when you can get it cheaper mined by people in poorer condition much less money, but thankful they have a job?

Could Britain even get out of the EU in the time defined by the Lisbon Treaty? http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-r...m-35921610

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(31-03-2016 17:54 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(29-03-2016 20:16 )Doddle Wrote:  It's ironic that the Thatcherites were largely responsible for selling off all the things we make, destroying all the industries we produce, and now want us to leave Europe... so we can all just open doors for each other in the ever-tedious service world.

Cheap coal from abroad killed the coal mines. Why pay a load more for coal mined by people on very good wages wanting more? when you can get it cheaper mined by people in poorer condition much less money, but thankful they have a job?

So you condone sweat-shops then?

The costs of coal were rarely appreciated when set against environmental arguments (and note that China makes any climate change efforts in the UK look futile).

nice bit on the news about Football and how a brexit could effect british clubs. with EU players now who would have to fill the international criteria to stay they said over 400 players that play in the english and scottish leagues wouldnt pass those criteria and would have to leave stoke chairman was on saying he could lose 9 of his first squad West ham could lose Payet.

big sam was asked said im sure goverment would have to do something because they wouldnt want to lose all the income tax and other tax that clubs and players pay every year

but makes u think

(31-03-2016 21:46 )Doddle Wrote:  So you condone sweat-shops then?

I'm the one thinking of voting out of Europe, you're the one in - dufus