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I know a lot of Utd fans some of which just like a majority of society are commonly racist but I've never heard them sing about Hillsborough, My opinion of them is it's probably mostly Manc's that are doing the chanting, I've noticed when it comes to football their attitude is a bit in your face ecpecially with older fans & given the state of society today it doesn't take long to filter down.

Yeah some will follow me saying similar about Liverpool fans but as I said this is only my opinion of how I've heard them portray themselves, the only rawness I've experienced from fellow reds (Actual Scousers) is towards other reds with regards to their support of the club & nothing to do with other teams.

I bet the FA & Premier League do fuckall about the fixture next week, It's about time clubs started getting bans on their fans, I see no reason for the Utd fans being banned from Anfield next week, but we all know full well that the FA don't have the balls to start this kind of punishment!!!

If FIFA can threaten England with World Cup bans then why can't the Football Association do the same to Premier League clubs?

People who sing chants about Hillsborough from whatever club they "support" should remember that Hillsborough was disaster waiting to happen for many years and had circumstances been different we could well be morning the tragic loss of supporters from a different club

Nottingham Forest had defeated Manchester United in the previous round of that seasons FA Cup and I cant recall who Liverpool knocked out but it could very well have been either sets of supporters who were there that day and allocated the Leppings Lane end

As with every club there are decent genuine supporters along with mindless scumbags, so in fairness many United fans acknowledge this fact and have respected the 96 dead and support the justice campaign

(16-09-2012 14:03 )Stillroom Rock Wrote:  People who sing chants about Hillsborough from whatever club they "support" should remember that Hillsborough was disaster waiting to happen for many years and had circumstances been different we could well be morning the tragic loss of supporters from a different club

Very very true and decent point there Stillroom. It's a shame though even after the tragedy of Hillsborough incidents like that are still so close to happening.
Aldershot took on Exeter in the FA Cup in 1999. The game could have had a nasty ending.

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/his...sters.shtm (scroll down to the bottom)

I know the guy and his son in the said article. I also work with 3 people who were there that day, all 3 grown men reduced to panic and fear. One of the guys said he can still remember the screams of a little girl who very very nearly fell down. He said he will never forget those cries. Yet the Exeter stewards still blame the fans for that!

Think then how the Liverpool fans felt that day. 96 people lost their lives that day so many many more injured. Everyone in Leppings lane will still hear those screams of panic tot his day. Things like that don't just leave someone. That's why the families and people of Liverpool have fought so hard to seek the truth.

It amazes me that the FA haven't clamped down on the away end at Exeter. When Leeds played them in League 1 a couple of seasons ago I remember seeing pictures of the squeeze then. Yes, having the big fences taken the has helped no end, but proper facilities and stewarding needs to be in place. All this talk of putting money into the game from the grass roots up is a load of bollocks. No one gives a fuck about the football league inside the Premier Gr££d



http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/Leeds-fans-ex...cident.php

There was other pictures I remember with the Leeds incident there, and that was only in 2010!

Any decent United fan must be embarrassed with what went on yesterday.

In the past 10-12 years i can honestly say i've only ever seen 1 maybe 2 idiots from our support with thier arms out like a plane and only ever when we play United. On one occasion it was after a United match on Anfield road, this daft kid done it and he was grabbed and given a proper dressing down by about 5 older Liverpool lads. That's how it should be dealt with.

It wasn't 1 or 2 yesterday at Old Trafford, it must've been thousands, without anybody booing to drown it out. That's the disappointing part. United sings songs about us at every match they play, without fail. I know there's good United fans, decent people that love thier club and wouldn't dream of singing about Hillsborough. They did nothing yesterday though.

Needs to be dealt with.

Some pics from last night.

(16-09-2012 15:47 )groundnpound Wrote:  Any decent United fan must be embarrassed with what went on yesterday.

In the past 10-12 years i can honestly say i've only ever seen 1 maybe 2 idiots from our support with thier arms out like a plane and only ever when we play United. On one occasion it was after a United match on Anfield road, this daft kid done it and he was grabbed and given a proper dressing down by about 5 older Liverpool lads. That's how it should be dealt with.

It wasn't 1 or 2 yesterday at Old Trafford, it must've been thousands, without anybody booing to drown it out. That's the disappointing part. United sings songs about us at every match they play, without fail. I know there's good United fans, decent people that love thier club and wouldn't dream of singing about Hillsborough. They did nothing yesterday though.

Needs to be dealt with.

I hate to point this out but it needs addressing cause it far too biased of a view, a quick YouTube search can show you how much both club sing about each others tradigies.

It's never gonnna be stopped until both clubs act and ban anyone singing about them.

(16-09-2012 20:54 )gazfc Wrote:  I hate to point this out but it needs addressing cause it far too biased of a view, a quick YouTube search can show you how much both club sing about each others tradigies.

It's never gonnna be stopped until both clubs act and ban anyone singing about them.

I can't stand hearing anyone from any club sing about a clubs tragedies. It's sickening and i despise it.

Any video you find of a scouser singing about munich or doing a plane will be one idiot at Old Trafford or a small group of scum bags looking for trouble in Manchester. You'll never hear a Liverpool crowd on Match of the day singing Munich or hear anything booming around Anfield or any ground we're at. Absolutely never.

There were thousands singing "Always the victim, never your fault" at Old Trafford yesterday and thousands of them sing about us every week, home and away. That's the difference.

Take points off them for it. That's what should be done. Every time they do it they lose points. Like they do with the old firm in Scotland. If it was affecting their team on the pitch maybe we'd hear the end of it.

Top class tonight from MOTD 2. Savage, Dublin and Murray all showing their disgust at what some United fans did yesterday and all three saying the majority should be drowning them out and should do so in the future. Spot on.

Respect again for the tribute to the 96 at the end of the show.

I'd much prefer them to lose a goal every time they did it. If they score and they chant like they did, then the goal is disallowed. Yet I always the get the feeling that stewarding and policing of football fans inside grounds is a bit nonsensical. I get the feeling that they would have to carry out a a health and safety risk before they did anything. What bollox!! They are there to root out and stop trouble and the fans who did should be banned for life from every soccer game at all levels. (Home and away gamesm internationals etc). If the police and stewards won't do a thing then it is up to fans grouping together and making citizen's arrests to get them thrown out. If they are season ticket holders then their tickets should be taken off them and sold to decent fans.

I've heard your fans singing, 'always check the runway for ice' at our ground as have man city and l**ds, as for hearing it on motd well I guess they normally don't highlight it as much as they have cause we all know it happens but honestly how many times do you hear about it?

You can't lay all the blame at them when IMO some of your fans are just as bad, it won't stop until both clubs put a stop to it

(17-09-2012 07:36 )gazfc Wrote:  I've heard your fans singing, 'always check the runway for ice' at our ground as have man city and l**ds, as for hearing it on motd well I guess they normally don't highlight it as much as they have cause we all know it happens but honestly how many times do you hear about it?

Well for me your lying about that for whatever reason mate. Hand on heart i can honestly say i've never heard that and i've hardly missed a game in years and been at Hull our last 3 trips there including the pre season friendly.

I've never put the full blame on United. There's scum in every support but they do it in far greater numbers and at every match. You'll get the odd prick from our support embarrassing everyone when we play United but that's it.

These people who disgrace their clubs and embarrass real fans around them aren't a reflection of their clubs fans or people of their city. They're scum, daft muppets who like causing trouble no matter where they are.

If the problem was looked into, analysed and investigated properly over a full season they would find out that the much bigger problem is with the United "fans". God knows how long it would take to weed them all out and punish them. Any Liverpool "fans" caught doing anything could be spotted and dealt with easily as they'd be in the extreme minority.

Any good, honest, decent Manchester United supporter would tell you the same thing.