Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

^ That's not the point and you know it. Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue. We would because we'd be the last one (at that time) seeking to do a Trade deal. That's not unfair at all - it's a fact

(23-04-2016 18:28 )Doddle Wrote:  So you want someone to judge him, but you're not bothered what the result is. Er...

Where did I say i had no interest in any results about him?

I clearly stated I know nothing about him or what he has done, this is why i asked, and nobody has rushed forward with a list of his achievements.

What I stated was I have no respect for him for the threat he made, which I don't. He has absolutely no right whatsoever to comment on or meddle in other countries issues, let alone make threats becasue they don't do what he wants.

Please illuminate me as to why he is so great, I didn't watch the propaganda program about him.

Wasn't one of his achievements ordering the killing in cold blood Bin Ladin when they could clearly have taking him alive to face a court of law? Whatever you may think of a person and what they have done, they have that right.

^yeah, obama killed bin-laden. what a cunt!

and don't get me started on obamacare! fuckin cheek of him providing free healthcare for millions of poor, underprivileged Americans. CUNT!

Not to mention taking out Jihadi John and other UK IS members along the way with Drones

Then there is Ghadaffi not sure boris should be pissing him off he might get his ass droned

Figures on migration from http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/statisti...eate-graph

figures show that the majority of immigrants come from Non EU and from the EU the majority of those come from countrys like Germany, France and Spain and western european countries which will be high skilled workers that this country needs. only 60k were from the dirty bastard Dole Stealing Eastern europeans but it goes to 40k Net as some go home

Sure you will dispute the figures but they are from a creditable source

(23-04-2016 22:27 )terence Wrote:  ^yeah, obama killed bin-laden. what a cunt!

And what was Bin-Laden?

Killing any body in cold blood with out a trial is.

Oh yes Ghadaffi, that was another dreadfull incident, made worse by being shown on tea time news.

People forget that the afgans and sadam were allies at one time.

The west, especially the US, created ISIS by going into their country slaughtering their poeple by the hundreds of thousands for the oil there.

(23-04-2016 22:27 )terence Wrote:  ^yeah, obama killed bin-laden. what a cunt!

and don't get me started on obamacare! fuckin cheek of him providing free healthcare for millions of poor, underprivileged Americans. CUNT!

I have wondered from time to time what the proper forum policy view is on swearing...

(23-04-2016 00:36 )wackawoo Wrote:  I have not seen a single REALISTIC survay or article that when you look at the real facts and figues that doesn't show the UK to be losing and losing heavily in all aspects of Europe.

That's a nice set of blinkers you're wearing there

You've decided to vote leave. That's fine, that's what it's all about, everyone makes their own choice. However, the way you seem to 'blame' others for your choice makes you look a bit uncomfortable with it.
Are you really a closet Remain?. Perhaps you need to embrace your Remain side and come out. No-one will think badly of you for it

(23-04-2016 22:58 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Sure you will dispute the figures but they are from a creditable source

He would need to understand them first

The real onus here is on the leave campaigners to show that getting out of the EU would be a benefit to Britain, and so far I have not seen one credible reason to leave that even comes close to justifying the massive leap in the dark that would be an exit. Sure there are faults with the EU but overall entry has generally been good for UK and I would need something really positive to throw away all that has been achieved over the last 40 odd years for what? Obama was only saying what any reasonably inteligent person should realise for themselves - that the UK's miniscule home market would be a low priority in a 21st century global economy dominated by massive trading blocks almost certainly no reason to imagine the fantasy utopia of life after the EU where either everything carries on as normal or where the whole world can't wait to beat a path to Britain to cut trade deals. I'll stick with what we have and what works for Britain thanks very much.

The fact that certain politicians are using Trump style rhetoric over here is very disappointing. Of course they have the right to put forward their agenda/ideas (even though it's full of empty promise), but using language akin to his is just wrong. I'm not suggesting anyone on the forum is racist or wrong for saying they want to vote leave, but I really don't like what I'm hearing from Boris and Farage, it's small minded ignorance at best, and divisive, them and us bullshit which feeds a nasty side of our country that we all know exists, but tend to gloss over, at worst. It's had a light shone on it in America, we don't need that kind of nonsense here.

Marine Le Pen, President of the French National Front is reported to be intending to travel to the UK soon. She is a supporter of Brexit and intends to speak in favour of it. Seems that Vote Leave have attracted some unfortunate far right supporters & Gisela Stuart, Co-Chair of Vote Leave wants her banned from the country. Well I suppose Vote Leave have at least inadvertently found a prominent overseas politician who supports them! I'm waiting for Boris to publicly announce that no foreign politician should say how we should vote