(19-04-2010 22:25 )MARCCE Wrote: [ -> ] (19-04-2010 22:13 )Rammyrascal Wrote: [ -> ]agree with all your points apart from the final one about a lot of babechannels going by this time next year. when elite started everyone was saying the same thing especially about bangbabes but bangbabes are still here. also agree bluebird's behaviour has been very unprofessional
But people were overplaying Elite at that time. They started with one channel. On the night side, I don't think they've ever really had more than about a dozen girls on their roster at the same time. Even now, a year down the line, people are saying they haven't got enough girls to provide enough variety on the nights. What Elite have got, and yes he's got his faults, is someone like Jamie who happens to be very good at what he does.
Doesn't alter the fact that Sophia and Ashley are up to about their 5th appearance in just over a week tonight.
That is small fry compared to 7 channels looking to get in 100 girls. They've already made it clear they'll be looking to take the best Elite have got. Babestation and Bangbabes will be plundered as well. You can't see much hope at all for the channels like Dirty Talk and probably Club Paradiso either.
And say someone like Delta, bless her heart, decides she wants to stay loyal to Elite. Her involvement with Bluebird will probably mean they'd be able to stipulate what they are prepared to let her do on a rival channel as well.
We would just like to make it clear that we have an agreement with Babestation [Cellcast] which means that we will not be hiring any Cellcast Babes, unless Cellcast wishes to give their blessing to that.
The position with Ashley is quite simple:
She agreed on Saturday to sign with Bluebird and we agreed terms, as we reported.
Anna, TJ and Gemma all texted the author of this post to say they were really happy about it.
She then asked if she could work 1 last night for Elite as Jamie was asking.
We said "sure - go do it".
Professional on all sides, and ensuring that the Fans get the Ashley they want, we hope you would agree.
Thanks
It is regrettable that some people feel the need to post that Bluebird's posts are arrogant.
We report facts and promote babes and their media products.
When people Flame us, we respond proportionately to the incendiary quality of the Flame. The opposite of arrogance.
We try to respond politely and accurately to Every question that Fans ask. That is the opposite of "arrogance": it is taking the time to answers Fan's enquiries.
Prior to launching our Channels, we have opened a series of Threads which ask You - the viewers - for your thoughts, likes and dislikes. The opposite of arrogance, surely ?
Posters are free to start whatever sub-debates they wish about the original post by us. Those debates and they issues they raise are not our responsibility. Yet it soon starts to get tangled up, as if we have said something new: and except for anti-Flame responses - we haven't.
No: "arrogance" is just a loaded way of saying that some people don't like some facts - which is not a state of affairs that we or anyone can apologise for.
Im no expert on this and don't pretend to be but "Agreeing to sign" and "Signing" are 2 very different statements...
so why would Ashley have to ask Bluebirds permission to work another night if she hasn't actually signed yet?
Well let's clear up that very issue while Mr Bluebird is in the vicinity, aston.
Mr.Bluebird, as you have just stated that ' "arrogance" is just a loaded way of saying that some people don't like some facts', please can you offer us a simple fact.
Has Ashley signed with you or not? Yes or no? Thanks in advance. The fans would appreciate knowing this.
(20-04-2010 05:35 )Rise Wrote: [ -> ]Well let's clear up that very issue while Mr Bluebird is in the vicinity, aston.
Mr.Bluebird, as you have just stated that ' "arrogance" is just a loaded way of saying that some people don't like some facts', please can you offer us a simple fact.
Has Ashley signed with you or not? Yes or no? Thanks in advance. The fans would appreciate knowing this.
As of now: yes. We have exchanged written agreements.
Thanks
Thanks for your clear and prompt response, Mr Bluebird.
(20-04-2010 05:31 )astonv1 Wrote: [ -> ]Im no expert on this and don't pretend to be but "Agreeing to sign" and "Signing" are 2 very different statements...
so why would Ashley have to ask Bluebirds permission to work another night if she hasn't actually signed yet?
We did try to explain the position in our post. Sorry if it was not clear.
We are trying to be diplomatic. Since you insist, we'll give you more of the facts:
Ashley was being placed under considerable pressure from Elite to sign a contract with them.
So she contacted us herself [without us asking her] and asked - over a weekend - if we would act quickly to guarantee her position if she wanted to come work for us.
We agreed, obviously on the basis that she was leaving Elite, which she agreed she was. We agreed terms.
On Monday, she asked if she could work 1 last night as Elite were being insistent. She asked us because she was concerned that if she did that we might walk away.
Instead, we said "fine".
So - how about saying
thanks for us supporting Ashley in what she wanted to do - and giving the Fans another Ashley treat ?
(20-04-2010 05:57 )BLUEBIRD OFFICIAL Wrote: [ -> ] (20-04-2010 05:31 )astonv1 Wrote: [ -> ]Im no expert on this and don't pretend to be but "Agreeing to sign" and "Signing" are 2 very different statements...
so why would Ashley have to ask Bluebirds permission to work another night if she hasn't actually signed yet?
We did try to explain the position in our post. Sorry if it was not clear.
We are trying to be diplomatic. Since you insist, we'll give you more of the facts:
Ashley was being placed under considerable pressure from Elite to sign a contract with them.
So she contacted us herself [without us asking her] and asked - over a weekend - if we would act quickly to guarantee her position if she wanted to come work for us.
We agreed, obviously on the basis that she was leaving Elite, which she agreed she was. We agreed terms.
On Monday, she asked if she could work 1 last night as Elite were being insistent. She asked us because she was concerned that if she did that we might walk away.
Instead, we said "fine".
So - how about saying thanks for us supporting Ashley in what she wanted to do - and giving the Fans another Ashley treat ?
Thanks for clearing that up, as im sure you will understand that if certain terminology is used as in this case then it can and did cause confusion (in my case anyway
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Please don't think i was having a go at you or your company, i was simply trying to understand the situation with Ashley.
I just hope Ashley isnt off our screens for too long.
Thanks
(20-04-2010 05:57 )BLUEBIRD OFFICIAL Wrote: [ -> ]Ashley was being placed under considerable pressure from Elite to sign a contract with them.
So she contacted us herself [without us asking her] and asked - over a weekend - if we would act quickly to guarantee her position if she wanted to come work for us.
We agreed, obviously on the basis that she was leaving Elite, which she agreed she was. We agreed terms.
On Monday, she asked if she could work 1 last night as Elite were being insistent. She asked us because she was concerned that if she did that we might walk away.
Instead, we said "fine".
So have I got this right...
Elite have been operating on the basis of NOT offering the girls binding contracts, happy to keep things on a rolling basis (and their own options open) until the Lovato Affair kicked off? Since when Elite went into a panic,trying to close the stable door so to speak and trying to nail down proper contracts with the girls before it was too late?