[split] Babestation - General Chat & Discussion

Well of course you won't admit it here, but you were just waiting on him to apologise, and when he didn't you played the sympathy card so people will defend you. I've seen it before on here, you models are all the same.

What exactly is your opinion? That you didn't like criticism being sent your way?

Well of course you are filling shoes, do you really think you would have been hired had there not been any departures?

(30-01-2013 21:31 )iamthatjack Wrote:  After following this debate, I know I don't need to speak for Fernandez Esperenda, as he can more than hold his own in a discussion, but for someone who claims 'i dont let what people think of me get to me' Sahara, you do seem to be acting like a petulant child because someone dared to not tell you you are great.

You say you have been in the industry for many years, and I can imagine with that, you must have faced far worse criticisms than Fernandez's 'under par' and yet I bet you only responded because you thought Fernandez would back down and apologise. I'm glad he stood up for himself as getting angry at someone for their opinion is rather pathetic behaviour, which you have displayed in abundance.

You say models don't frequent this forum as they don't like being called such things as 'under par' whereas I would suggest you tell them to come on here to read any criticisms so they may improve! This place doesn't just criticise, there are plenty of compliments to be had too.

To be fair to Fernandez, he never said anything about him disliking you or anything of the sort, just that he saw what I think a lot of people see in your performances: nothing special. But that is due to our expectations. We all expected your performances to be up there with other pornstars that have been on the shows, but unfortunately, your performances haven't reached those heights, not even close to be honest, and in that respect, you have been 'under par'. Either you need to loosen up, or go on BSX, because you aren't filling the shoes of those who have left BS.

I didnt get angry, i expressed my apinion.. i'm certainly not going on bs filling anyones shoes but my own thanku very much.. I actually dont work on that channel. Your apinion on my performance has been duly noted

Hadnt realised that i was meant to have been putting on a pornstar show As for petulance, i hadn't realised that i had thrown a strop apart from put my apinion forward. If u want to call that petulance and pathetic so be it..

I would never expect anyone to apologise for their apinions because i wld never apologise for mine. i had never expected fernandez to back down or apologise.. why should he... we all have a right to express an apinion and i did so just as he did..

(30-01-2013 22:19 )saharaknite Wrote:  I didnt get angry, i expressed my apinion.. i'm certainly not going on bs filling anyones shoes but my own thanku very much.. I actually dont work on that channel. Your apinion on my performance has been duly noted

Hadnt realised that i was meant to have been putting on a pornstar show As for petulance, i hadn't realised that i had thrown a strop apart from put my apinion forward. If u want to call that petulance and pathetic so be it..

I would never expect anyone to apologise for their apinions because i wld never apologise for mine. i had never expected fernandez to back down or apologise.. why should he... we all have a right to express an apinion and i did so just as he did..

(30-01-2013 22:30 )iamthatjack Wrote:  

hahaha. when u cant think of an articulate reply one can but insult.. And i have not been hired by BS... I work for mastichat and on rampant tv

(30-01-2013 22:02 )iamthatjack Wrote:  Well of course you won't admit it here, but you were just waiting on him to apologise, and when he didn't you played the sympathy card so people will defend you. I've seen it before on here, you models are all the same.

What exactly is your opinion? That you didn't like criticism being sent your way?

Well of course you are filling shoes, do you really think you would have been hired had there not been any departures?

U seem to be thinking for me when u say i was waiting for him to apologise... Dont think for me!!! I can do that for myself

And what sympathy card have I played... I have no reason the pay the sympathy card. i dont need people to defend me from someones apinion

If i wanted him to apologise for his remarks i wld have come straight out said that i wanted an apology.. I dont need him to do that all. i wldnt apologise for my apinions and i dont expect him to do so either for his.

I dont mind criticscm at all. But u have to understand that if u aim criticise at people u r more than likely to get a responce to that that criticism..

U also seem to assume to much... I havent been hired by BS so i am not filling anyones shoes!!. I have been working on mastichat tv since november last year and on rampant TV since december.. Some of the the mastichat girls do the occasional night show on bs hence the reason for me being on there at all

(30-01-2013 22:33 )saharaknite Wrote:  hahaha. when u cant think of an articulate reply one can but insult.. And i have not been hired by BS... I work for mastichat and on rampart

No, it's because you are going in circles and really have no idea what you are arguing about, rather arguing for the sake of it. You caused a massive strop after someone called you 'under par' and can't let it go, even after being told how childish you are acting, so I thought I would go 'under par' and behave like you

If you 'don't mind criticism at all' you wouldn't have made this all such an issue. I'm surprised you haven't developed thicker skin being in the industry for as long as you have been.

It's behaviour like your's that made me stop posting in this place for so long, wish I hadn't bothered, because as much as you claim to have insight etc, your initial response shows how little you can accept criticism, contrary to what you say now. This place is just full of hypocrisy and your posts highlight that more than ever.

(30-01-2013 22:43 )iamthatjack Wrote:  No, it's because you are going in circles and really have no idea what you are arguing about, rather arguing for the sake of it. You caused a massive strop after someone called you 'under par' and can't let it go, even after being told how childish you are acting, so I thought I would go 'under par' and behave like you

If you 'don't mind criticism at all' you wouldn't have made this all such an issue. I'm surprised you haven't developed thicker skin being in the industry for as long as you have been.

It's behaviour like your's that made me stop posting in this place for so long, wish I hadn't bothered, because as much as you claim to have insight etc, your initial response shows how little you can accept criticism, contrary to what you say now. This place is just full of hypocrisy and your posts highlight that more than ever.

What.. accepting critiscm doesnt mean that one cant reply to comments made about them ... or does it!!

(30-01-2013 22:49 )saharaknite Wrote:  What.. accepting critiscm doesnt mean that one cant reply to comments made about them ... or does it!!

You say people are allowed opinions etc, but you can hardly call 'accepting criticism' by telling Fernandez that you put his opinion in the 'rubbish bin'. If you think by saying something as stupid as that means you accepted his criticism then you really have no clue.

Again, it is clear as day that you have now realised your initial reaction was way out of proportion. You are now changing your tune, to make yourself seem above it all etc, when in fact, anyone with a brain, who isn't sucking up to you, can see you are just behaving like an idiot now. Your posts from then to now aren't consistent, as it is so clear you just want to get the final word, on a matter you lost when you argued in the petulant way you did, and frankly, I am done with you.

(30-01-2013 23:07 )iamthatjack Wrote:  You say people are allowed opinions etc, but you can hardly call 'accepting criticism' by telling Fernandez that you put his opinion in the 'rubbish bin'. If you think by saying something as stupid as that means you accepted his criticism then you really have no clue.

Again, it is clear as day that you have now realised your initial reaction was way out of proportion. You are now changing your tune, to make yourself seem above it all etc, when in fact, anyone with a brain, who isn't sucking up to you, can see you are just behaving like an idiot now. Your posts from then to now aren't consistent, as it is so clear you just want to get the final word, on a matter you lost when you argued in the petulant way you did, and frankly, I am done with you.

oh dear god.. all my posts have been consistent.. and i havent changed my tune at all..Yes fernadez gave an apinion.. and i gave my own in which i disregarded his apinion.. so i said i threw it in the bin.. and i stand by that fully!!!! why are u carrying on.. me and fernandez have sorted it!! no apologies on either side..