[split] Babestation - General Chat & Discussion

(30-01-2013 13:50 )saharaknite Wrote:  

(30-01-2013 03:29 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote:  

(30-01-2013 02:29 )saharaknite Wrote:  

(29-01-2013 03:58 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote:  

(29-01-2013 00:23 )saharaknite Wrote:  well thanku very much for your apinion. it is has been duly noted... in my rubbish bin

Because i prefer the twins my opinion is rubbish? Great

lol, u can like who ever u want to.. we cant like everybody now can we!!!...I also didnt say that your opinion was rubbish.. i said that it had been duly noted and that i had decided to toss it in the bin we as models are allowed to have opinions now arent we and that was my opinion on your opinion...

I can see why models dont frequent these forums with people like u calling them below par.....Just because one isnt to your liking doesnt make them below par...

Have a great night

People like me? I've backed lots of girls on here in the past and stuck up for them, just because your a model/pornstar doesn't mean I have to bow down to you and suck up, what do you expect on a forum? It's about opinions, my opinion of you as a babe channel girl is that there are far more girls currently on the channels who I'd much rather watch, people have seen you do pretty much everything there is to do in porn on the internet and there is nothing left to the imagination, which to me makes you a lot less enjoyable to watch, if I compare you as a babestation girl to lori say, i'd say you were below par, compare lori to you as a pornstar, she is below par... People can think what they like of me, i'm not a bad person, i'm just saying what I think, like I said before just because your a performer i'm not just going to treat you like royalty and be a suck up...

I dont recall saying that i want/ needed u to like me or that u had to suck up to me.. U called me specifically below par.. No one else in your initial post!! So i am not to your liking when i am on BS because i have done everything and theres nothing is left to the imagination... big deal..... Not being to your liking doesnt make me below par..I may not be to your liking but i am to someones liking Just like u may not be to everyones liking.!!

I dont need no ass kissing from u! I have never ever said that i wanted to be treated like royalty. If at any point i have said that in any of the posts that i have made pls feel free to highlight it so that i may stand corrected.

All opinions are subjective and everybody has a right to have one, but they are not facts.. so in your opinion i am below par which i can accept and disregard because it is in your opinion only...lol...and dont worry.. i do not cry into my pillow at night because of what u think of me .

I have been in this industry for a good many years and i dont let what people think of me get to me and i am intelligent enough to give a concise reply to remarks made about me

looks like it.... And just to get 1 thing straight, I don't think of you at all, i'm not interested in anything you do, have done, or will do, carry on pleasing others, and i'll carry on watching people I like.. in my opinion pornstars like you should be on shows like bsx where people are expecting to see some more extreme things, which currently there is a lack of girls willing to appear on it, not on a free to air show...

I think this is all getting a bit ridiculous.
Without taking sides, Fernandez is entitled to his opinion, & Sahara is entitled to respond if she feels that expressing such an opinion is an attack on her personally.

I wasn't attacking her personality... Thats the thing, i made a comment weeks ago after the twins left saying i thought she was below par as a BS girl compared to the twins, which was my own opinion.. Why somebody who claims not to care what people think would log on to a forum a few weeks later to dig up a post is beyond me? I have nothing else to say about it, I don't know sahara as a person, i have no problem with what she does, i just prefer the twins and others who left, and peronally think the people in to replace aren't as good, it doesn't make me a bad person for doing so.

Fernandez,please dont mind me asking,but if you two ever kissed and made up would you still give her one? i just got to know.

Make up for what? I haven't done/ said anything wrong or insulting, i haven't said she is horrible or anything like that... i just said I preferred the twins and didn't think myself sahara would be as good on bs as the twins... I haven't commited a crime for f**k sake and have no reason to apologise...

(30-01-2013 20:30 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote:  Make up for what? I haven't done/ said anything wrong or insulting, i haven't said she is horrible or anything like that... i just said I preferred the twins and didn't think myself sahara would be as good on bs as the twins... I haven't commited a crime for f**k sake!

I agree with this.

I have followed the debate (if thats the right word to use) and I think you have done nothing wrong and there is just an overblown reaction to what you said.

Its not like Fernandez said anything really nasty like something you would see on the comments on Youtube. Maybe people react to certain things in different ways, but still I find it hard to imagine calling someone below bar being extremely offensive.

He prefers certain Babeshow girls over others, its hardly a crime against humanity.

Lets all just move on now . . . well hopefully.

After following this debate, I know I don't need to speak for Fernandez Esperenda, as he can more than hold his own in a discussion, but for someone who claims 'i dont let what people think of me get to me' Sahara, you do seem to be acting like a petulant child because someone dared to not tell you you are great.

You say you have been in the industry for many years, and I can imagine with that, you must have faced far worse criticisms than Fernandez's 'under par' and yet I bet you only responded because you thought Fernandez would back down and apologise. I'm glad he stood up for himself as getting angry at someone for their opinion is rather pathetic behaviour, which you have displayed in abundance.

You say models don't frequent this forum as they don't like being called such things as 'under par' whereas I would suggest you tell them to come on here to read any criticisms so they may improve! This place doesn't just criticise, there are plenty of compliments to be had too.

To be fair to Fernandez, he never said anything about him disliking you or anything of the sort, just that he saw what I think a lot of people see in your performances: nothing special. But that is due to our expectations. We all expected your performances to be up there with other pornstars that have been on the shows, but unfortunately, your performances haven't reached those heights, not even close to be honest, and in that respect, you have been 'under par'. Either you need to loosen up, or go on BSX, because you aren't filling the shoes of those who have left BS.

Fernandez,just found the whole dialogue fascinating.glad you are both posting your opinions.thered be no forums left if everybody just sat back and didnt bother.just to set the record straight. i think you make some really good sincerely held points.there is a dearth of x rated performers on bsx at the moment.people do expect more explicit girls on that channel and it causes quite a bit of friction when they are promised it and dont get it.i would personally like to see bsx kept to just the more x rated girls, like sahara.people could then pick the ones to tune into that took their fancy knowing the show was going to be x-rated.others could be left to respectfully do their thing and please their supporters on free to air.i do their do feel it ends up reflecting badly on both the customers and performers when they try to put the less explicit girls on an x channel.i also liked the twins and think that generally there has been a great loss talent recently.thanks for all your many posts.

Quote:Well i guess most people wld take offense at being called below par.
Him prefering other bs girls isnt a crime i never said it was... and my reaction wasn't overblown. he gave an apinion on me which i replied to. Am i not allowed to do that?.. My reply was straight forward..

Maybe people do take in certain words or phrases differently. I guess it depends how sensitive you are as a person. However, IN MY OPINION, I there is nothing wrong with using the words "below par" to me its along the lines as someone saying "she's not my cup of tea".

And of course you can reply as many times as you like, I'm not going to stop ya.

(30-01-2013 21:31 )iamthatjack Wrote:  After following this debate, I know I don't need to speak for Fernandez Esperenda, as he can more than hold his own in a discussion, but for someone who claims 'i dont let what people think of me get to me' Sahara, you do seem to be acting like a petulant child because someone dared to not tell you you are great.

You say you have been in the industry for many years, and I can imagine with that, you must have faced far worse criticisms than Fernandez's 'under par' and yet I bet you only responded because you thought Fernandez would back down and apologise. I'm glad he stood up for himself as getting angry at someone for their opinion is rather pathetic behaviour, which you have displayed in abundance.

You say models don't frequent this forum as they don't like being called such things as 'under par' whereas I would suggest you tell them to come on here to read any criticisms so they may improve! This place doesn't just criticise, there are plenty of compliments to be had too.

To be fair to Fernandez, he never said anything about him disliking you or anything of the sort, just that he saw what I think a lot of people see in your performances: nothing special. But that is due to our expectations. We all expected your performances to be up there with other pornstars that have been on the shows, but unfortunately, your performances haven't reached those heights, not even close to be honest, and in that respect, you have been 'under par'. Either you need to loosen up, or go on BSX, because you aren't filling the shoes of those who have left BS.

Actually.. no i wasnt expecting anything.. i wasnt getting angry, i was expressing my apinion.. is that not allowed now and i am not filling anyones shoes that have left bs, why wld i want to ..I fill my own and if u dont like my performances thats ok as well, and if that makes me sound petulant.. thats fine