Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(25-06-2016 21:26 )munch1917 Wrote:  The scale is exactly the same, so it doesn't make it look equal at all, and there is a line graph right there super-imposed over it showing the net contribution, so how are you getting confused

Shoulda gone to specsavers!

Dude, I had the terible misfortune of having to do an entire semesters worth of stats and probibilty, one of the biggest parts of that was manipulation of statistics.

It is quite simple, if one part of the graph goes to 20 billion, then the other should also go to 20 billion, this alone shows it is not the same. Where they both go to 20 bil on first sight the recieve back would look a lot smaller.

In addition, why is it presented in that way any way? the histograms should be exactly on the same axis side by side or at the very least super imposed if you are compairing. The line graph is an irrelavnce.

Manipulation is very subtle stats, it has to be it is design to be missed.

(25-06-2016 20:44 )barracuda Wrote:  

(25-06-2016 19:29 )SecretAgent Wrote:  If the terms were similar to Norway's I might vote in favour but of course Leave said no to that option as it requires free movement of people.

I thought Leave had retracted that now, saying it recognised that free movement of labour was essential.

Is their anything left that Leave have not yet retracted?

(25-06-2016 22:14 )Censorship :-( Wrote:  

(25-06-2016 20:44 )barracuda Wrote:  

(25-06-2016 19:29 )SecretAgent Wrote:  If the terms were similar to Norway's I might vote in favour but of course Leave said no to that option as it requires free movement of people.

I thought Leave had retracted that now, saying it recognised that free movement of labour was essential.

Is their anything left that Leave have not yet retracted?

Their belief that the earth is flat

^ Only a matter of time...

(25-06-2016 22:14 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(25-06-2016 21:26 )munch1917 Wrote:  The scale is exactly the same, so it doesn't make it look equal at all, and there is a line graph right there super-imposed over it showing the net contribution, so how are you getting confused

Shoulda gone to specsavers!

Dude, I had the terible misfortune of having to do an entire semesters worth of stats and probibilty, one of the biggest parts of that was manipulation of statistics.

It is quite simple, if one part of the graph goes to 20 billion, then the other should also go to 20 billion, this alone shows it is not the same. Where they both go to 20 bil on first sight the recieve back would look a lot smaller.

In addition, why is it presented in that way any way? the histograms should be exactly on the same axis side by side or at the very least super imposed if you are compairing. The line graph is an irrelavnce.

Manipulation is very subtle stats, it has to be it is design to be missed.

dude, now you're just talking shite!

the graph is fine, it's to the same scale and in no way manipulative. you just need to know how to read it.

(25-06-2016 22:14 )wackawoo Wrote:  Dude, I had the terible misfortune of having to do an entire semesters worth of stats and probibilty, one of the biggest parts of that was manipulation of statistics.

Just one semester? I've done more than that, as well as a heap of mathematics, so I also know a bit about manipulation of stats as well as graphs in general, and the graph is fine in my opinion, it serves its purpose and represents the data clearly enough for most muggles to understand, but whatever 'dude'

^Fuck off.... are you telling me the blue lines are bigger than the red lines? Crazy fool.

(25-06-2016 22:23 )terence Wrote:  dude, now you're just talking shite!

the graph is fine, it's to the same scale and in no way manipulative. you just need to know how to read it.

Alrighty, it's a wonderful graph, you're entirely correct

I never said anything about reading it but histograms are a pictoral representation.

(25-06-2016 13:12 )SecretAgent Wrote:  Well this should be interesting because I don't know if the EU has the authority to hold discussions with Scotland

On the other hand, the EU may welcome discussions with Scotland and even encourage it to stay in the EU, in the interests of stemming any perception that the UK referendum is the beginning of the EU falling apart.

Mail got headline that EU wont negoiate with scotland so they are fucked along with us englanders !!