I think it's regrettable, that it should be necessary for forum users to presume that their posts are potential 'advertorial' fodder.
A (too) "close connection" between this forum and the channel operators isn't necessarily any more welcome, than the relationships that exist between advertisers of books, films, and music, and (some) magazines and so on, that cover them, and are sometimes threatened by the former, that being "too critical", might cost them advertising revenue, or interviews.
Hence, you get the likes of derivative wanker Quentin Tarantino, who's obviously used to more praise than not, seeming to mistake a news programme, Channel 4 News, for some fluffy celebrity worship show, and being surprised at being given challenging questions.
I wrote in recent days, that at least before censorship was relaxed, competition between porn producers in UK, led to their not necessarily being bothered about others' going out of business.
Hence, in contrast to the US, producers were less likely to be united in opposition to the far tighter censorship struggles they faced.
https://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.p...pid2621422
I wouldn't be surprised if a comparable situation exists, among the channel operators' working within their respective regulatory framework.
Moreover, corresponding to the way, that internationally, some porn producers are more forceful than others, in making sure their material doesn't stay on user-generated sites. The channel operators evidently have differing assessments of the costs and benefits of 'cooperation' with forums such as this.
The major counterexample is social media, where clips and screenshots, will prompt some to use sites where they can see more for free, whilst others will pay.
The numbers of social media users mean that the former will be many, but so will the latter.
Plus, parallel to clips' being retweeted, the slogan and hashtag 'payforyourporn' is also widely circulated.
The numbers of users of this forum, and its likely wider audience, are sure to be dwarfed by those for social media.
Hence, the gains for the channel operators of 'cooperating', beyond goodwill, aren't necessarily much greater than the losses of not.
However, there is evidently a shared, continuing concern, about this forum being a source of information for those monitoring the channels.
Hence, posts that might potentially be even marginally compromising, don't stay for too long.
I find this rather baffling, not least because of more people on social media, but also that the greatest source of information, are the channels themselves.
For which I would expect there are self/appointed persons and or systems, doing such monitoring, continuously, as a far greater priority.
Unless, the forum operators object to everything in a post, it would be less alienating, if a poster were given an option to either "re-edit", or delete their post.
In one of my earliest posts, I wrote about how I came to be expelled, from the subsequently defunct Xpanded forum.
https://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.p...pid2430022
There were a lot of users who were critical of Xpanded. But one of the revelations that emerged near my expulsion, was that criticisms by users who weren't paying customers, such as me, were discounted by Xpanded.
A rather blinkered view, I would say, as other potential customers might have shared those criticisms.
The much wider dismissal of 'freeloaders' is no less puzzling.
I'd already taken to typing ['Freeview'], some time before then, on Xpanded forum, because a license needs to be paid to watch 'Freeview', and broadband doesn't come for free.
I doubt that anyone is advocating a situation where ppv is introduced for all tv, and every site on the web, because that would severely limit the numbers who saw anything, and things advertise themselves, to a great extent.
Although as has long been said, if something is free, it's because you are the product.
Hence, you have things sold to you, unsolicited, and your personal information is mined and sold.
Plus, there's all the free work, that social media users effectively do for those companies, and the people and things they post about.
That could also apply to users of forums such as this, whatever the diverging attitudes of the channel operators towards them.
I don't know why the Xpanded forum was discontinued, when the site was effectively relaunched, a few years after I was expelled.
However, I do know that by that latter time, permissible discussion was so narrow, that the busiest thread was little more than a children's game.
Indeed, that was one of my major complaints about the forum.
I think it was in the final thread I started, that I directly asked a moderator, what was the point of the forum.
I can't recall if that was answered, but the moderator revealed more than might have been avoided, otherwise.
That was probably why, after I was expelled, that thread was also removed.
Although I did take a screenshot of it, and a number of other threads, including the thread(s) that was/were the basis for my decade overview:
https://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.p...pid2484684
I think that alongside other changes, Xpanded itself didn't see any point in the forum, ultimately. Whilst other operators evidently haven't seen the benefits of having its own forum, beyond a chat box, in the first place.
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what a great surprise to find after a few days away from here and the shows as had a busy weekend doing stuff, i hope they keep using them