Osama Bin Laden Dead

Prince Harry reported missing after a secret fancy dress party somewhere in Pakistan...

If anything, the situation in NI at least shows that negotiation can work for those who have a lesser apetite for conflict. Whilst both situations can be said to be 'of a religious nature', NI was at heart about sovereignty, whilst the current islamic terror threat is pure religious ideology. It's very difficult to negotiate with someone who is not scared of, and believes they will be rewarded for, death; someone who believes that god made the whole earth for them and the followers of Islam.

"Will we never learn? Who knows. Religion. Shit it." - Stephen Fry


Slightly OT, but I always wondered, throughout 'the troubles' in NI what was the position of ROI?

(04-05-2011 21:47 )lucent-x Wrote:  If anything, the situation in NI at least shows that negotiation can work for those who have a lesser apetite for conflict. Whilst both situations can be said to be 'of a religious nature', NI was at heart about sovereignty, whilst the current islamic terror threat is pure religious ideology. It's very difficult to negotiate with someone who is not scared of, and believes they will be rewarded for, death; someone who believes that god made the whole earth for them and the followers of Islam.

"Will we never learn? Who knows. Religion. Shit it." - Stephen Fry


Slightly OT, but I always wondered, throughout 'the troubles' in NI what was the position of ROI?

the republic stayed neutral (suprise!) there was republican (IRA) elements around the border areas and in cork and dublin but the offical line was neutrality. imo the irish government didn't want us, the financal burden was to much!
on the plus side i get two passports!

by the way, your post is spot on. i couldn't have put it better myself!

I bet bin laden wishes he had,nt filled in that bloody census form now.

(04-05-2011 21:55 )terence Wrote:  the republic stayed neutral (suprise!) there was republican (IRA) elements around the border areas and in cork and dublin but the offical line was neutrality. imo they didn't want us, the financal burden was to much!

So wouldn't it potentially have eased the problems somewhat if they'd just said they didn't want to take on NI? Given their current economic problems, I bet they really don't want you now!

they wouldn't publicly say they didn't want us, they knew as long as unionists had the majority in the north then it was a moot point!

Being from the republic in my opinion that isnt true i cant speak from a government perspective but the vast majority of people in the republic feel a sense of solidarity with the catholics of northern ireland. You also have the unionists of northern ireland who would never accept being part of the republic. Its not a simple situation at all.

(04-05-2011 22:19 )Ro1982 Wrote:  Being from the republic in my opinion that isnt true i cant speak from a government perspective but the vast majority of people in the republic feel a sense of solidarity with the catholics of northern ireland. You also have the unionists of northern ireland who would never accept being part of the republic. Its not a simple situation at all.

i was speaking from my opinion of the governments perspective but you are so correct. it's by no means simple!

We all want proof he is dead for sure... For starters d say there was a stand off then they come out and say he was not armed bit strange if u ask me...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/photos-bin-lade...18224.html more new bullshit