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I know this is the wrong section to post but what did that Fernandez guy get banned for?

Seriously why is LVG saying he is leaving Man united in 2 years even news worthy now

(27-07-2015 15:55 )shano123 Wrote:  I know this is the wrong section to post but what did that Fernandez guy get banned for?

Didn't he announce that he was leaving, if I recall correctly?

^ No, he was banned. I doubt that the mods would state a reason for this publicly.

(27-07-2015 16:42 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Seriously why is LVG saying he is leaving Man united in 2 years even news worthy now

I bet after seeing how much the club have let LVG spend in the last 2 years Moyes must have been fuming. It's obvious the club needed a massive over haul and ferguson was negligent in getting the required replacements in, and Moyes was the fall guy.

(27-07-2015 22:46 )setter1000 Wrote:  I bet after seeing how much the club have let LVG spend in the last 2 years Moyes must have been fuming. It's obvious the club needed a massive over haul and ferguson was negligent in getting the required replacements in, and Moyes was the fall guy.

That and the players refused to work with him .

(27-07-2015 22:52 )Mr77 Wrote:  

(27-07-2015 22:46 )setter1000 Wrote:  I bet after seeing how much the club have let LVG spend in the last 2 years Moyes must have been fuming. It's obvious the club needed a massive over haul and ferguson was negligent in getting the required replacements in, and Moyes was the fall guy.

That and the players refused to work with him .

He was on to a hiding to nothing. If he did the CL and premier league double they would say it's all down to ferguson's work the year before; do what he did they say he is out of his depth. I know it's not always the results it's the performances and 2 games against Liverpool at home and Everton away they were terrible. Were the players really refusing to work with him. If they were it back fired for them considering the fact LVG replaced them pretty sharpish.
I think Moyes thought he had a year to see who he wanted and didn't want and the board misled him. If he replaced all of the team they would say he thinks he knows better than ferguson. Keeps the same players they accuse him of sitting on his hands and doing nothing.

(27-07-2015 23:05 )setter1000 Wrote:  

(27-07-2015 22:52 )Mr77 Wrote:  

(27-07-2015 22:46 )setter1000 Wrote:  I bet after seeing how much the club have let LVG spend in the last 2 years Moyes must have been fuming. It's obvious the club needed a massive over haul and ferguson was negligent in getting the required replacements in, and Moyes was the fall guy.

That and the players refused to work with him .

He was on to a hiding to nothing. If he did the CL and premier league double they would say it's all down to ferguson's work the year before; do what he did they say he is out of his depth. I know it's not always the results it's the performances and 2 games against Liverpool at home and Everton away they were terrible. Were the players really refusing to work with him. If they were it back fired for them considering the fact LVG replaced them pretty sharpish.
I think Moyes thought he had a year to see who he wanted and didn't want and the board misled him. If he replaced all of the team they would say he thinks he knows better than ferguson. Keeps the same players they accuse him of sitting on his hands and doing nothing.

Lol no the players did not refuse to play for him. He was out of his depth somewhat but it more a case that we had a wholesale new regime. New manager, new chief exec led to a disastrous transfer season. Losing key players and not replacing adequately.

(27-07-2015 22:46 )setter1000 Wrote:  

(27-07-2015 16:42 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Seriously why is LVG saying he is leaving Man united in 2 years even news worthy now

I bet after seeing how much the club have let LVG spend in the last 2 years Moyes must have been fuming. It's obvious the club needed a massive over haul and ferguson was negligent in getting the required replacements in, and Moyes was the fall guy.

It'll be both Moyes and LVG who'll be fuming once the new guy comes in....and it's not only Manchester that needs a overhaul..... sometimes I think the beautiful game in this country needs a total overhaul too!
It is time that the game started on a road back to where fans can have a say in the game and in their respective clubs futures'....the lure of the moneymen has lost that link between the clubs and ordinary fans and the lower levels of the game.
If it was possible any of you guys were able to suggest changes that made the link between the fans and the game that much better, what changes would you most like to see?

@ hannahspet
Lol it was not me who suggested that the players refused to play for him. It was mr 77
I personally believe that ferguson left at the right time. It was a move to protect his legacy. Rooney suggested that ferguson was not doing enough to rebuild the team a couple of years previously and has been proven right. Moyes kept faith with them and lost his job.

@ babelover
Firstly players should be allowed to celebrate with their fans when they score a goal. If a player makes even remote physical contact with a fan he gets a booking. I find it ridiculous that a player can get cautioned for just high fiving one of his teams own supporters.
Clubs need to be more part of the community like Barcelona rather than just acting as some faceless cooperation. Maybe players and coaches regularly visit local schools and even undertake some training sessions could build bridges between clubs and fans. Also having so many foreign players does not help.
It is unreasonable to expect them to have any knowledge of what it is to play for their respective clubs. Even a spurs fan would know what it means to play for westham and vica versa. Liverpool for example in the 90s had quite a few Everton fans play for them( Steve Mcmanaman, jamie carragher michael owen to name a few) You could see they knew what it meant to play for Liverpool and had an affinity with the fans as a result.